From Relay FM, this is the very first podcast-a-thon. My name is Mike Hurley, I'm joined by Stephen Hackett. We are here, where are we, Stephen? We are on the campus of St. Jude at Children's Research Hospital in my hometown of Memphis, Tennessee. And this is the beginning of a six-hour stream, so settle in, make sure you've got some drinks. It seemed like a good idea, but sitting here now with six hours in front of us, it's a little intimidating. It's not just the two of us, what have we got planned for our evening? We have some great stuff. We're gonna have several guests from Relay FM join us, some names you may know, Alex Cox. John Siracusa. Federico Vaticci. And David Sparks, too. It's gonna be great. Oh, and Jason Snell. And the Snell Zone will be here, not here, but on Skype. The Snell Zone is never here, until it is here. That is how things work. So we're gonna have some guests, we're gonna have a bunch of games. In fact, we have some stuff that we need to talk about, because we actually need your help, dear internet audience. So the reason we are here is because we are raising money for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, and we are currently at, what are we at? $170,000. Wow. We have increased our fundraising goal. Our original goal was $75,000. We wanna raise $200,000 now, and we need your help to do that. So go to stjude.org slash Relay. You're gonna hear that web address a lot over the next six hours. And give some money to help beat childhood cancer. St. Jude is an incredible organization. We're actually gonna be talking to some people who have been affected by St. Jude, and everything that is done here as we go out through the day and through the evening. Of course, one of the main reasons we're here is because of Stephen's Connection. That's how we kind of came to know St. Jude. But once you have spent any time learning about this place, or if you've ever been to this place, you will wanna support it too. So we're here to try and help you understand over the next six hours why your money should be put to good use in going to help this incredible institution. And we have some videos that we're gonna be playing throughout the night too, to give a little bit of background that have been created by St. Jude. So that's gonna help you understand why you should be going to stjude.org slash Relay, where you can donate. But of course, considering we are here and on video, we're gonna be making fools of ourselves over the next six hours to get your money. So do you wanna talk about some of the stuff that me and you are gonna be getting involved in? Absolutely. So the first goal is gonna be the first $1,000 of the podcast-a-thon starting now. And once we hit the $1,000 mark, some things are going to begin to happen. To our faces. To our faces. So Mike is known for his beard, but we decided we should defile it a little bit. So Mike is gonna become glittered. Glitter boy. Big glitter boy. Will be added to the beard over the evening. And as that's happening to Mike, as he becomes more shiny, I also become more shiny, because my beard will slowly wane away as the evening goes on as we raise money. So if you wanna see Mike covered in gold glitter, and you wanna see my beautiful baby face, stjude.org slash Relay. Yep, so I think when we get to $171,000, things will start happening to our faces. That's a weird sentence. But it's just where we are today. That is where we are in our lives right now. Did you ever imagine that you would be here? No. Oh, people might be wondering, I don't know if you can see this on the camera, what these are. We have balls. Oh, so you may now be seeing the hashtag beard goals. I'm ruining everything for people in the control room right now. It's gonna be a lot of control room. This makes me feel very TV, what we're doing right now, that we're now making it difficult for the wonderful people in the control room. Because we have multiple cameras, we have an incredible set, we have people in a control room with a TriCaster, and they're pressing buttons. We have earpieces where a moment ago, someone told me to stop talking so heavily into my microphone. That was the thing that just happened to me. But so as you can see, at $1,000, there's gonna be some sideburns, and goatee, and glitter mutton chops action. And as you can see throughout the evening, we will be unveiling additional goals to more increasingly glitter my face, and shave Steven's face, make it all smooth. But we do have these wonderful colored balls, which you saw a moment ago. We do. This is really cool. So for every donation of $50 or more, either previously or during the night, every one of you who have done this have your name on one of these plastic balls. And I can tell you, there's a lot of them. This is just a very small sample. And we're gonna be reading the names as we go throughout the night. And, oh hi. I saw the cat. Oh no. Oh my gosh, they're everywhere. I found the limit to my ball box. Yeah, it's a lot of things. And we are going to be throughout the night filling up a, it's not really a toy pool. I don't know what that is. It's a ball pit. It's a ball pit. And we're gonna fill it up, and as the evening goes on, we're gonna send Mike over to the ball pit as a roving correspondent to tell us how it's going. Should we start filling the ball pit a little bit? I think we get started now. All right, so Louis from San Fran. Thank you, Louis. The first one. You made it, that's good. It's very lonely. Just one ball in the ball pit right now. I'm not sure I can. Here's the ball pit. Yeah, it's way over there. Jeremy from Guilford, Connecticut, number two. So you're gonna throw him in? Mike's gonna get up and go over there. It's a very sad sound. It's a very sad sound to hear just one ball. Yeah. All right, I'm gonna take my microphone now. We're doing this. It's getting serious. Control room's very nervous. That's okay, that's okay. Because look, I have this, I don't know what this is called, this thing, but it makes me feel like I can talk to you. Hey! Hi. So all right, we have Joseph from Greenville SC. What is an SC? South Carolina. South Carolina. There's two of those, right? One north, one south. John from Newton, Massachusetts. That's good. How do you spell Massachusetts? We realized just this afternoon that Mike doesn't know what all the state abbreviations are. No, so this is a fun thing we're going through together. David, we're not actually, so just so you know, we're not gonna spend nine hours just reading these. I know that this looks very daunting right now that we just have these boxes of balls and we're reading them one at a time. But we wanna encourage you out there to give us $50 or more, preferably more, as much as you can to get some names on balls. So what is today, September 20th? It is. It's a special day for people that tend to tune in to our shows. What is happening today to people? They've spent a bunch of money on iPhones. They've spent a bunch of money on iPhones. And right now they're watching us and watching the iCloud restore on their phone. Yep, do you think that David from San Jose, California has a new iPhone? I bet he does. I bet he does, because he's from San Jose, California. Wow. What about Michael from New York? New York. I bet he bought an Apple Watch. Maybe they did. Oh, you think they would've bought an Apple Watch. That's nice. What about Dennis from Mesa, Arizona? He got both. Okay, what about Michael from Huntington, New York? Still waiting on his order. Okay, what about Jonathan from Roseville, California? Oh, that's it, that's done for me now. Goodbye, everybody. Brian from Fairfield, Ohio. I feel like there's some names that come up, like Fairfield and there are multiple states. Fairfield loves St. Jude. But we have, you have a new iPhone. You went and picked it up this morning. I do. We went to the Apple store and saw everything new, tried on some watches. I like that ceramic watch. Mike wanted to buy an Apple Watch. He did not, but I think if it had been in stock, he would have. And we're gonna play with the iPhone 11 Pro here in a little while, do some camera stuff. Yep, we're gonna do some night mode shots, like live on the video. That's right. We're gonna show you, in case you've been wondering what the new camera app looks like, we're gonna show you. Do you wanna read some more names from balls? I do. Why don't you throw it to me and I'll see if I can catch it. Like an alley-oop situation? Like alley-oop it and we'll dunk it in. Okay, we have a- This is not gonna work. It's not. We have Kenneth from Chicago, Illinois. Yes! Oh, look at that. Did it. We have Zach, also from Chicago. I wonder if they know each other. Probably. We're not gonna do that anymore. We got one good one. One good one. Vosko from Meridian, Idaho. What is that? Idaho? Idaho's beautiful. This is Meridan. Is it Meridian or Meridan? I don't know what I said. Could be anything. You wanna do the last one? Yeah. Now we'll do Robbert from Davenport, Iowa. All right, do you wanna, what should we do with these? Should we dump them in now? I'd say we dump yours in. Let me come help you. Okay. And you hold your microphone there so people can hear how good it sounds. Oh, okay. Wait, so why do you need to help me? I can do this. Well, you hurt your back. No, I'm good. You're good? Yep. In my mind, that would have sounded good. Probably didn't, but I hope that it did. So, stjude.org slash relay. So you can give us some money, and if you donate more than $50, you will get your name on a ball, and maybe we will read your name out. And if your name didn't get read out, and you're thinking to yourself, oh, I bet it was one of those balls that went in the ball pit, and they're not gonna read my name. Later on, I will be getting in that ball pit, and we'll be finding more names from the ball pit. We have a big ball pit stirrer. We're gonna go wild with that thing. It's gonna be great. So, stjude.org slash relay. What do you wanna do now? Let's talk about our Apple Store visit for a few minutes. Oh, okay, yeah, it was a nice thing we did this morning. So we went and did the pre-order for pickup. That's my belief, that's the best way to do it on launch day, so you're not stuck waiting for the FedEx person all day. We've done that, and that's always disappointing. They circle the block, but don't stop at your house, and you chase them down. It's not a good look. Those, you know, like the tracking things, they're torture. It is torture. Right, because you're like, oh, you want delivery 600 out of 601, but they're like two blocks away. Where are you gonna go? And then they go all over the place, and then they finally find their way back to you. I don't have an iPhone because I'm here in Memphis, so. I'm sorry. I pick one up on Monday. I bought one. It's good for you, isn't it? So we got to play with the iPhone 11 with the new colors. I was really surprised. The colors are, they're not as vibrant as the XR from last year. They are definitely kind of the Easter phones. They are. They're Easter egg-esque, but they are more vibrant than I think they show off in pictures and video. Yeah, but I would say that green, I was wrong about the green, the midnight green. Oh, do you like it? I like it a lot. I think that it isn't as green as I would have thought. I still stand by the idea that blue would have been a better first choice, but they went with green, but the green isn't very green. It's subtle. I feel like in an ascernant lighting, the space gray and the green would actually look very similar. Yes, yeah, and I think that that is fine. I still would have liked to have seen a little bit more, though, I'm just gonna say. Like what? Like a nice, if they would, they should launch with product red. I know that they like to wait. Yeah, well, it's with the 11, but yeah, it's not with the high-end phone. Yeah, I mean, I think that they might do, because they've done that in the past, right? We're like six months in. They'll do like a product red phone. Yeah, I'm trying to think back when they've done that. The last couple, they did it with the seven and the eight, but I don't think they did it with the 10. Maybe the live stream can tell us, but I think that it's a cool program, and I think with the iPhone 11 being more popular, like it makes sense. The chat's going wild right now talking about the fact that I have a midnight green Blazer. This was just a complete accident, but yes, this is, look at my lovely Blazer. I am Mike Pro here. What do you want from me? I have nine hours to fill, six hours to fill. I'm going long. I don't know if I told you about this, but we've got three hours of just Mike. There's three hours of just me at the end. That's how it goes. You're just like on the sidewalk outside of the building. Yeah. Just talking to no one. Well, somebody listen to me. I have more things to say. So we like the colors. The Apple Watch has caught me by surprise, so I wanted to try the titanium. I was unsure about the brushing. I thought the brushing would be- Like a bit aggressive. Aggressive brushing. You don't want aggressive brushing. No, just a good light brushing. Yes. I bet that Chris from Maspeth, New York likes a light brushing. Everybody does. You made it in there. It's good. But it's actually pretty subtle. And I think the color and the weight basically puts it in between the aluminum and the stainless steel. I've worn the stainless steel for several models. My current one is aluminum though. And the titanium is like right up the middle weight and the color wise between the silver and the gray. I think they actually nailed it. And I really, I really like it. Yeah. Do you know who else I think likes it? Who? Gemi from Florianapolis. Florianapolis? That sounds like a made up name. That's not a city. Florianapolis? All right. I have Google here. Oh boy. What is that? I don't know. While you do that, I'm gonna read some more. Oh no. That's a very long one. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. I already picked this one out. Vijay Madhav from Pottawranch, California. It's good. Florianapolis is the capital of Southern Brazil's Santa Catarina State. And it's mostly made up of 54 meter long island. Wait, we know who this is. Think about who we know from there and that name. Oh really? Do you think so? Maybe. You don't know. I mean, it's. If it's not them, they feel bad. Like Gemi is a very popular name. I'd say it's our friend. It's like the John of Brazil. Title. Thank you, John from Brazil. Thank you, John. Stan from Philly. Yep. And Rudy from Bothell, Washington. Washington. Washington. Washington. I just hadn't finished yet. You didn't let me finish. I obviously know it's Washington. So the brushing on the stainless steel, you said. On the titanium. You thought that it was gonna look like a DeLorean or something. Well, I think it does actually look like a DeLorean, which is a very specific. But it's funny because you're telling me the DeLorean was actually made of stainless steel. The DeLorean is made of stainless steel. But it diffuses light. You know, the stainless, you see a reflection in it. But the titanium sort of diffuses that. It's nice. I am a fan. I think if I end up with a series five, that'll be the one that I do. The chat room are laughing about the fact that I don't know US states. That is 100% true. I don't know why I would. Let's see if Michael from Hot Springs. They don't teach our geography around the world. And see, let me see if I can work this out. North Carolina. Yes. Maybe I should just start trying to guess them. Rather than just wondering. So Ben from Cave Creek, Arizona. A-Z. Very good. Or just Ozona. Ozona. Ozona, that's the way I'll remember it. That's good. All sorts of people in here. We got Patrick from Austin, Texas. We've been to Austin. Yeah. I think we'll be back in Austin next year maybe. You never know. I would like to go back to Austin. Not just to see Patrick. But if Patrick's there, we'll say hi. We'll say hi. What did you think about the ceramic Apple Watch? I love it so much. I tried it on with the white sport band, and it's stunning. It's really beautiful. It's very expensive, but it's very, very, very nice. There was something strange with the screen with the one I was trying on. It wasn't very bright. I don't know what was going on there. And I tried turning up the brightness, but didn't get a, didn't get an, I don't think I got the full experience. But I did like it. I liked that the sport band had a white pin. So this is the kind of thing that I'm wondering about. Because that white pin is clearly just for the ceramic watch. So with the new style creator, do you get that? Because you can't buy the ceramic with a sport band as a standard configuration. It starts with sport loop. Right, yeah, I don't know. In the past, because I've worn the stainless for a long time, and you buy a replacement band, the pin's aluminum. Which always bothered me, because I am who I am. But, so with the stainless steel, if you buy it with the stainless steel, you get the stainless steel pin. So I'm actually not sure with the ceramic. I will say, the ceramic's not for me, but it looks very, very good. I think we're getting a- Oh, we have some breaking news. From the control room, that is also, we have two control rooms. We have the actual control room, and then we have a slack control room. The slack control room is saying that we have actually passed our first 1,000. Oh, so our faces are on the line here in a few minutes. Yeah, so shortly I'm going to be, somebody's gonna be coming and do an interview on stage. And we'll talk about that in a minute. So maybe during that period of time, you could go clean yourself up a little bit. I'll go, yeah, tidy this up a bit. Yeah, that'd be nice, wouldn't it? It's gonna go quickly. Well, we control the goals, so a million dollars. Million dollars for a mustache, as the kids say. But Stephen, if people want to give money, where on earth would they go? We are gonna send everyone over to stjude.org slash relay. And we are 85% to our new goal of- $200,000, which is really awesome. We started with 75. That was our original goal. We met that incredibly quickly, less than half the month we met that, because of the kind generosity of all of you. And then we thought, okay, let's do 100, and we hit that. And then we did, what, 100 and- 100 and, I don't remember what the goal changed, but I remember being very excited at 150, because 150 was double the goal, which has blown us away. Every time we reload this page, it's like a little, it's a little flutter of joy. I have been checking it constantly. It is an open tab for me on every single device I own, which is a lot of devices. And I have been constantly refreshing and checking it. But so we decided that we wanted to go big, and we've set, that is like our final goal that we want to reach, which is $200,000. It's amazing. Which is a huge, huge amount of money, which has some significance, which we'll talk about maybe a little later on in the evening like what $200,000 can do at St. Jude, which is incredible things. Yeah. So coming up next, you're going to interview someone very special, a friend of mine. But first, let's let the people learn a little more about St. Jude. ♪♪♪ I'm going to bring this up so, it was like too far away. ♪♪♪ Some days it feels like it's never going to stop. It's kind of a mental war. Sometimes you just feel like it's not going to get any better. The first thing I asked my dad was, Daddy, I'm going to die. When you go through suffering, you learn a lot about yourself. Good stuff comes out of every bad situation. Dark circles all around my eyes. I was just out of it. In one moment, those three words, you have cancer, and my whole life changed. Without cancer, who am I? I feel like I could do anything. I could go to college, be a nurse, be a doctor, anything. I'm a straight-A student, focusing on getting my Bachelor's degree in journalism. I'm just doing it one step at a time. I would like to go in the filming industry. It's kind of always been something awesome to do. It's always been something awesome to me, but it's going to take some work. While I was going through chemo, I learned how to read greens. I chipped and putted. I worked on sand shots. Stuff that I would need to know. The best score I've had is an 86, but I really want to get down to 85 or less. I've been working at it, and I think that that's achievable now. I don't let physical limitations even cross my mind at any point in time. I'm just hoping to be sitting in a broadcast booth somewhere. Hopefully, that's my goal. I'm not the same person I was when I first went into this. I'm a better human being, an individual, because I went through St. Jude. It wasn't like a hospital. It was like a fun, loving community, a family. St. Jude Children's Research Hospital You and I have vowed that we will do everything in our power to bring about the defeat of these catastrophic diseases. St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, world-renowned. I need your help. Advancements in pediatric science and clinical care. Please help me. We're going to treat children of every creed, nationality, and color. And by the grace of God, it shall be done. Okay, all right. So that was a live. That was an idea of some of the incredible stuff that happens here at St. Jude. And I have the pleasure of being joined by Enrique now. Enrique has a personal story, a personal connection with St. Jude that we want to talk a little bit about to try and give you all an understanding of what this money can do and how this place affects people's lives. So Enrique, can you tell me a little bit about where your story with St. Jude began? So we came to St. Jude August 2nd of 2009. We walked through the doors because my daughter was diagnosed with a brain tumor. So leading up to that, we actually lived in Japan. I was in the United States Navy. And I was stationed about 45 minutes south of Tokyo in Atsugi, Japan. And my daughter had a 10-minute seizure. And they took us to a Japanese hospital with a translator in tow to just try and figure out what was going on with her because she was not responsive. And she was just unconscious after her 10-minute seizure that she had. So after they did a CT scan, we found a mass in her brain. And after that, they gave us the opportunity to treat her there in Japan, but we didn't speak the language. I'm not Japanese, as you can tell. So we decided to come back to the States. And they sent us to San Antonio where they did the brain surgery. And a couple weeks later, when the biopsy came back, we found out that she had ATRT, which is atypical teratoid rhabdoid tumor. So in 2009, that appeared 38 times a year around the world. So it's an extremely rare brain tumor that we just happened to get on my daughter. So after that, when we got the diagnosis, I believe we got it July 31st, we packed up and came to St. Jude, not knowing that there was an acceptance process or anything like that. We just decided to pick up and drive. So you knew about St. Jude before, and was like, this is the place we're gonna go to. So we kinda knew about it because I lived in Memphis for a couple years, but we didn't know about it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you were aware of it. We were aware of it, but we would drive by and just be like, oh man, those poor kids in there. And you get mailers when you live locally in Memphis. So we used to send the 50 cents back or whatever they would ask for, for the address return thing. And yeah, so we knew about it, but we didn't know about it. And specifically, I have specific memories of when we used to watch the infomercials and we'd say, man, where do they find these poor families? Like, how does this happen to someone where their kid has cancer? So yeah, when we got the diagnosis, July 31st of 2009, we began researching and everything we found that correlated with ATRT led to Dr. Gujarat here in Memphis. So we knew that we needed to get to him. So when you were researching, you were finding this individual who worked here. Yeah. And you're like, well, if this is so rare and our daughter has it and this guy knows about it, we need to get our daughter to this guy. We need to get to him. We knew that that was the best chance at life. So the children's hospital we were at in San Antonio told us that they had never seen it, but they were willing to treat it with the same protocols that St. Jude was gonna do it. You know, that St. Jude was gonna use, but that just wasn't good enough. So we packed up and came here, and on the way here, Dr. Gujarat called us. And my wife tells the story that, you know, because we had been researching so much for the previous 48 hours about this guy, Dr. Gujarat, and now we have Dr. Gujarat on the phone. And my wife always describes it as Brad Pitt calling her phone. She was just extremely excited that this guy was calling our phone, and he was like, bring her here, and we'll do the best we can. And a memory that has always stuck with us the most is that we walked through the doors August 2nd of 2009. It was a Sunday night at 10 o'clock we got here. And Dr. Gujarat, who is the head of neuro-oncology, an extremely busy man, was there to welcome us through the doors. And, you know, at that point, just researching, and me being an analytics guy, I was really stuck on numbers, and I asked him, what's the percentage of survival that you give my daughter? And he told me, I don't treat numbers, I treat children, and I promise to do everything I can to save your daughter's life. So we immediately knew we were at the right place. That's pretty incredible. Yes. Can you tell me a little bit about what treatment was like? So her treatment consisted of 31 radiation treatments as soon as we got here. So as soon as we got here, August 2nd of 2009, eight days later, August 10th of 2009, she had a second brain surgery, a month after her first one. Because the original hospital just didn't get everything that they were, oh, they're rolling some pictures through. Yeah, so they didn't get everything that they were supposed to in the original hospital. So we had another doctor go in and get a second brain surgery. And they had a full extraction. They were able to get the entire tumor out. So when that happened, they gave her a few days break, about a week break, and then she had 31 radiation treatments. And then she got a month break followed by four high-dose chemotherapies augmented with four stem cell transplants. So what they would do with her chemotherapy is they would basically pump her with chemo for five days straight, give her a day break, and then give her a stem cell resuscitation every time. She did that four times. And then March 31st of 2010, she was cancer-free. It was something that we never even saw on the horizon because the original hospital in San Antonio, my daughter had just turned three. I don't know if I ever said that. So in April of 2009, she turned three. And then we found the tumor in June of 2009. And the hospital in San Antonio told us that she would never turn four, and the best-case scenario was 13 months of life on treatment. So here we are in March of 2010, and she's cancer-free. And during that time, our first go-around is when we met the Hacketts, when we met Stephen and Mary and Josiah and their family. So we've known them over 10 years now. Yeah, I was talking to Mary and Stephen about this a couple of days ago, that you were in treatment together, right? That was kind of how you would meet each other. And what is that kind of experience like for families at St. Jude, to be around other families in the same situation? Because if you're in just a hospital, there's so many other things going on. But when you're here, everybody's going through a pretty similar situation to you. And I just wondered, like, from an emotional support perspective, what is that like? So, I mean, they become family, right? I don't mean to sound cliche, but we all understand each other, and there's just an unspoken understanding of everything that we're all going through. It doesn't matter how hard your day gets. Mary and Stephen will understand, and I'll understand when they're having tough days with Josiah. I've always loved getting to know the Hacketts, and I think they're rolling some pictures of Josiah and Ariana that I may have sent in. I'm actually the person that taught Josiah how to fist bump. I used to always see him, because I remember when he was in a cast, trying to get him to go through physical therapy, I remember we'd see Mary around the hospital, and she'd be like, you know, the therapist really wants him to use his left hand. And I would always make him fist bump me with his left hand. I'd see him, I'm like, give me a fist bump, Josiah, and he'd always try and do the right, and I'd be like, no, use your left, come on, use your left. So it's just, like I said, we just all understand each other, and the beauty of St. Jude is just behind those walls is everyone's living the same thing with family and loving people that truly care. And the way St. Jude is designed, it's broken up in clinics. So it's like D clinic is solid tumor, E clinic is brain tumor, which is where we were. So most of the families that you're dealing with and waiting in the waiting rooms are, they're going through similar treatments that you're going through and have similar diagnosis. So you definitely understand each other in those clinics, the way everyone's broken up. And you're spending a lot of time here, right? When you're going through treatments, you're here a lot. You're here, yeah. So Ariana, when she did her 31 radiation treatments, we were here 31 days straight, every day. 31 treatments in 31 days? Mm-hmm. It was every day. She did it for, so I guess that's what, four weeks in a day, yeah, a month, an entire month. Can we talk about a little bit what happened after the original kind of cancer-free? Yeah, so she, like I said, she was cancer-free March 31st of 2010. We lived cancer-free for a year and a half. So after you're cancer-free, you go every three months with brain tumors, I believe, is every three months for 18 months, you have a scan and a checkup to make sure there's no relapse. So it just so happened that on our last one, before we went up to six months, it was actually the first time we were comfortable that we didn't get this so-called scanxiety that St. Jude families or cancer families talk about. She relapsed. And at that point, with ATRT, it just so happens that typically with a relapse, actually most of the time, it just means there's a genetic disposition. So it didn't matter what we did. She just lacked a genetic component to fight off that cancer. So there was really not much we could do at that point. And typically with ATRT families who do relapse, the kids are around like six to nine months, and then unfortunately they pass away. So we kind of knew that that was coming. So in March of 2011, or in July of 2011, to the day, July 15, 2011, she relapsed. And we celebrated Christmas in July just because we knew that she may not be around for the holidays. So we began to plan for that. So we went, took her to Disney World, took her to Disneyland, took her back home to see family. We enlisted her in the Navy. We made her a cop, a firefighter for the day. We did everything. We tried to cram an entire lifetime in those six months. Well, you know, December and Christmas came and went, and then we got to February of 2012, and we just had her on extended life chemo, quality of life treatment for those six months until February. And there was nothing really happening with her tumor. So she ended up qualifying for an experimental chemo that St. Jude had for her. She was actually one of the first patients to receive this treatment. She was the first patient at St. Jude, as far as we know, with this chemo to try it with her. And this is because she had kind of passed the point of no return effectively. Yeah. So they were able to try this experimental chemo, and in February of 2012 they started her on it. And then three months later we did a scan, and it shrunk it by 90 percent. So now here we are with our child who we think should have already passed and her tumor reduced by 90 percent. So we, you know, hope's back on the horizon. We knew that we could never beat it, but we can definitely now control it. So, yeah, so we went on living that way three months at a time, and unfortunately she did pass away in March of 2014. How old was she at that point? She was two weeks shy of eight. So we gave her eight because we celebrated her eighth birthday. So she passed away March 21st of 2014, and her birthday would have been April 8th. But, you know, she lived a full life. We tried to create as many memories as we could. And I always think back to the original hospital that told us that the best case scenario was 13 months of life on treatment. But we got nearly five years from the day of diagnosis. And, you know, I don't have her here to walk her out here and show you that she's doing great, she's off to high school. But we are very thankful and forever feel indebted to St. Jude that we got those five years that I truly believe we wouldn't have got elsewhere. Yeah, it's obviously a heartbreaking story. And, you know, I don't really know how to say, like, I'm sorry that that happened to you. Thank you. But the fact that you did, even though they were difficult times, the fact that you got those five years is quite an incredible thing. Right. Because, as you say, without St. Jude, it may have been a year, one less than even. Yeah. And, you know, because of the design of St. Jude that no family ever pays for treatment, housing or food, we were able to afford to create memories and not worry about having to pay for anything. Because Disneyland is expensive. Disney World is expensive. And Ariana, as the Hackett's will probably tell you, Ariana was a Disney freak. So any time that she felt well, and Eric will tell you over there recording behind the camera, any time she was walking around the hospital, she was in a princess dress. But any time she felt well, we always asked her, do you want to go home and see family or do you want to go to Disney World? So we went to Disney World. So Ariana, who passed away before two weeks before turning eight, went to Disney World more than your average adult. So she went to Disney World and to Tokyo Disney three times while we were stationed there. And then she went to Disney World in Orlando eight times. And then she went to Anaheim twice. So she was in fact, you know, a Disney freak. Any time she felt well, it was like, what do you want to do? Let's go to Disney World. And like I said, because we didn't have to worry about medical bills, we were able to spend our money on making memories. And it's more than bills, right? Food and housing. Food and housing. And that is an incredible thing where, I mean, me and Steven have been on a tour of St. Jude yesterday. We're going to talk a little bit about that later on, but that was the part that it really struck me to think that it's more than just the bills. Right. Like a lot of people are picking up their entire lives and moving here. And kind of like in the way that you describe it, if you wanted to be with Ariana during her treatment, you can't work. It's 31 days of treatment. She needs you to be there for her. Yes. And I don't know how else you could do it, right, in those situations. And it would be incredibly difficult on a family. So St. Jude thinks of that and they give you that. And it maximizes the time that you're able to spend with her and the memories you can have. Yeah, they do. And, you know, you being international. So one thing, another thing that St. Jude will think about, you know, transportation is included in that. So if you have a family, say, from South America somewhere that we diagnose and accept to treatment here, we would make sure and pay for flights to bring them here. You know, we pay for flights for all families, but for international families, now you're paying for visas. You're making sure these families can cross these international borders with flights and visas and bringing them here and providing housing and food. Because an international family coming to a new country, you know, they might not have any clue on how to start life. And St. Jude has social workers to help them start that up and, you know, just kind of adjust to their new life of facing childhood cancer while they're here in Memphis. You said we. You now work for St. Jude, ALSAC, right? I do. I work for ALSAC St. Jude, which is ALSAC is the fundraising and awareness organization for St. Jude. Yes. So ALSAC is who we've been working with here to set up the podcast. What do you it's this place obviously has good memories for you, but also sad ones. How do you get to the point where you would work here? Like in my mind, I could imagine it being too painful. What is it that made you want to work for ALSAC? So I think just everything that they ever did for us and being around the hospital. You know, I'm not a religious person. So the only the only place I truly feel Ariana is walking around the hospital. You know, I have we have we have bad memories there. Ariana passed away in the hospital. So there is situations where, you know, that place would be a negative would hold negative memories for someone. But the good memories outweigh the bad memories for me. And giving tours and speaking about Ariana and just kind of carrying her legacy that way is truly something special and obviously therapeutic for me. So it's I love being a part of the mission. I love knowing that I've lived on the other side and I understand families. My job today is I work on the patient engagement team. So I work directly with the families at the hospital now. And it's, you know, 10 years ago or 12 years ago, I would have never said that this was my dream job. But it's definitely become my purpose in life to feel that I am doing something because of something that happened to me. You know, some of the greatest nonprofit organizations are made because people were put in a corner and just kind of how they clawed their way out. So I do think that I do think that St. Jude one day will cure childhood cancer. And I'm proud to be a part of the team that will hopefully advance the studies to get us there. Obviously, we are here to try and convince people to donate. Yes. At St. Jude to org slash relay. If you could send a message to our viewers about why you think they should donate to St. Jude. Like what makes this a special place to you? Do you have a sentence that you can give for that? Like why should people give money to this place? So I think one of the things I tell people a lot is, you know, I would look at it as an insurance policy. You know, to become a partner in hope, it's twenty dollars a month. So twenty dollars a month. That's probably what three Starbucks drinks nowadays. So twenty dollars a month ensures that these doors stay open at the hospital. And because you never know when you'll need the doors to be open. Like I said, when we lived here in Memphis before diagnosis, we used to look at the commercials and be like, where do they find these poor families? Never thinking we'd be on the commercials. So you never know if one day you'll need those doors open for not only for your family, for your kids, but it could very well be your niece, your nephew, your grandkids, godchildren, your friends, kids. So for twenty dollars a month, you're ensuring that those doors stay open in case one day you need them open for someone you love. And every dollar does not get used in vain. It's like, you know, we're bringing families internationally. We're bringing families from all around the country and all around the world, ensuring that they're all treated free of cost for everything. And St. Jude truly does think of everything. Enrique, thank you so much for coming to share your story with us. It's an incredibly moving story, and I'm really pleased that we got to tell it to our audience. So thank you. No, thank you guys for having us. And I'm proud to be a part of this, and I'm proud of Stephen and you for putting this together. I mean, this has been a long time coming, and to know that it's finally here, you know, I'm excited to welcome your viewers and your listeners to our great campus, and hopefully they get to come in person one day. I hope so. All right, so we're going to show a short video, and then when we come back, we're going to be, I think, demoing the new iPhone, and I assume Stephen's lost some facial hair. Enrique, thank you again. Thank you, Mike. And we're going to run a video now. Thank you so much. Yeah, no problem. It's a glittering premiere at the Chicago Theater for Warner Brothers' I'll See You in My Dreams. A real dream has come true, for this benefit premiere launches a drive for a new hospital sponsored by the film star Danny Thomas, here arriving with his family. Years ago, Danny vowed he'd build a hospital if he ever became famous. $32,000 are subscribed, the first of a million, Danny Thomas tells friends he'll raise for the St. Jude's Hospital of his dreams. They said it couldn't be done. They said that it was a task which would break my heart. They said it was impossible. At this very moment, as I speak to you, in the city of Memphis, Tennessee, there is being constructed a hospital in the form of a star. There it is, in concrete, glass, and steel, to offer help to all the children of the world, regardless of race, creed, or economic status. You and I have vowed that we will do everything in our power, spiritually, physically, mentally, and financially, to bring about the defeat of these catastrophic diseases. We're going to begin with leukemia, and by God's grace, after defeating it, go on to other diseases. That little tiny building has led the world in advancements in pediatric science and clinical care, and now it's going to rise up. We'll bring it to the fore through an organization called ALSAC. If I were to die tomorrow, I would die in the hospital. If I were to die tomorrow, I now know why I was born. While we're sitting here making this video, there's a family that's walking through the front doors on a Friday afternoon, and they're at St. Jude. At St. Jude, I asked the doctor, can you treat my child? And he said, no. We're going to cure him. We're currently trying to get an iPhone to mirror to an Apple TV, so that's a thing that's happening. You can go to stjude.org.au where you can donate now, or you can set up a monthly Partner in Hope donation if you want to, which is another wonderful thing. It's something that I do, and Stephen does as well. You can donate one time, and that's amazing, but you can also give more. Why not? You should. Stephen's got less facial hair, which is going to be great for you to see in a minute. That was a lot of fun for me. I think I am going to be glittered shortly. Should we start now? Welcome Susan from Allsack, who's going to be glittering my face, because that's where I am in my life right now. I'm going to remove this jacket, because I'm terrified about that. Look at this. I'm wearing my nice shirt. Do you want to sit down? I'm going to sit down, because otherwise no one will be able to hear me. I think it would be easier if you sit and I stand. You can just keep talking, and first we're going to apply the glue. We're going to start with the glue. That's good. Let's start with the glue in my beard. Are we doing both sides now? Yeah, but we'll start with one. The glue can dry quickly is what I've heard, so we're going to do one side. We wouldn't want the glue to dry quickly. This is because you got us to our $1,000. I've been told now that at $180,000, what are we doing? What's happening? What's happening at that point? Do you remember? What is the next stage? For me it's glitter eyebrows. That sounds like fun. Steven will be going down to a goatee. Right now he's reminding me. I don't know why, maybe it's just the goatee. He looks a little bit like Heisenberg from Breaking Bad. That's where I kind of get the view. So there you go. There's the graphic on the screen now. We have hit $171,000, so now at $180,000, which I think is around $4,000 or $5,000 from where we are now, we're going to be glittering up even more. We haven't even been on for an hour yet, and there's already glitter being applied to my face, and hair being removed from Steven's. So, stjude.org. I want to thank Enrique again for sharing his story and his family's story with us. I know it's an incredibly emotional thing, and we're trying to have fun here, but there are serious stories to tell. So I really hope that that was something that you got a lot out of. Am I glittered now? Oh boy, am I. That looks really good. Maybe we can show people through the iPhone. Can we do that now? I think we can. Alright, we're going to show you what I look like. I'm going to put my jacket back on. I love this jacket. It's going to be glittery around the edges. Oh, there we go. Alright, so we're through the phone. This is the regular wide-angle lens. I can come up here, and I can see Mike here. Look, look, look. Steven, the best thing. Turn it to the selfie camera, will you please? Oh, you want the big reveal? Yeah. Oh boy. Look at him. Maybe we can do some slow-mo. Let's see how that looks. Oh, no. It was too good for the camera. It was too good for the camera. Look at that. Oh, God. I'm so sorry. Can you get in? Let's do some telephoto of my glitter now. Okay, let's do. Let's go back to the camera here. Oh, we don't need me. So there's you, and we can, of course, punch in. We can get real close here. Look at that. Do a little shimmery for me. Oh, my goodness. But this is the new iPhone 11 Pro. What am I doing? We can also go to the ultra-wide, so we can see a bunch of the studio. So wave your arms around for me. You know what? Now we have this. Let's do some ball pit time. That sounds good. I'm going to go back to the ultra-wide, so you get the feeling of how big this room is. This is a little bit bigger than my studio. There are a lot of wires. I'm trying not to trip on them. So we have a ball pit. We do. I can come over here. They're showing us on the regular camera now, I think. So we have a ball pit. Do you want to switch over so we can? Oh, you know what we should do? What should we do? Slow-mo of me pouring some balls in. Oh, that's good. Everybody wants. I'm not saying it. All right. Let me read some of these before we do throw them in. We have Zach in Durham, North Carolina. Hey, I got family there. That's great. We have Sky in Biltmore, New York. I don't have family there. Alex in Chicago, Illinois. I wonder if that is the Alex. It could be. We'll say that's Alex Cox. Thanks, Alex Cox. You can go in first. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina. Not North Carolina now. Tyler from St. Cloud, Minnesota. Minnesota. Stephen from Altoona, Wisconsin. Sure. Yep. The home of the fish. The Altoona tuna. No one in this room laughed. Not a single person. Because everyone was wondering if that was a real place and a real fish. This is Brad from Lodi, California. Cody from Sunnyville, California. Wayne from Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Right up the road. Is that how it's spelled? Murfreesboro. No, but that's not spelled like that. There's an R in it. M-U-R-F-R-E-E-S-B-O-R- I can't pronounce it. I'm just going to say, I love this place. I love Tennessee. America. This is the most southern name of anything I've ever said. Murfreesboro. Because for me, borough is B-O-R-O-U-G-H. But there's a... Anyway. All right. Alan from North Billerica in Massachusetts. Scott from Palm... I don't know what that is. All right. Let's pour those balls into the ball pit. Hang on. Let me get a slow-mo. All right. All right. I am ready. Going into the ball pit. All right. Let's see how that looked. That looks awesome. Look at those. Yes. What's nice, what I've noticed about this phone, because we've been playing with the slow motion. We need to get that on the Twitter or something. Yeah. It looks amazing. Under the internet. What's nice about the slow motion on this camera is, in low light, slow-mo was kind of jittery on previous phones, and they've really smoothed that out. It looks really good. There's laughing in my ear from the control room, and I'm not 100% sure why. I feel like something horrific has happened in there. They're enjoying the slow-mo. Not that everyone got to see all the selfies I was taking of myself earlier on. You can do that if you want. You can show all my selfies. Ultra wide. Maybe we can show people night mode. Yes. Maybe we can have the lights off in the studio for a minute. I'm going to back up so you can see where Mike is. You can see how well lit it is. Oh. Okay. That might have been too much. No, no. This is great. All right. All right. So stand there, and we're going to see how this works. So I get the logo up at the top. It's taking the exposures. Look at that. We will see. Oh, my word. I should just say all that is lighting me right now are two laptops, right? Two laptops. That's it. That is incredible. Yeah. It's great. I can come into it and look at that man. Look at that man. Take a non-ultra wide. Take a regular one. Let's see what that will look like. That was the 1X, actually. Oh, really? Try telephoto that or something. All right. We'll do telephoto here. Whoa. And we're going to do the exposure so it counts down. If the phone is on a tripod, it will run even longer, which is cool, but I didn't bring a tripod. If only we were somewhere that could have a tripod. That's a little blurry. A little blurry there. That one didn't come out so well. But really, I can't believe that. That one, though, is incredible. Because it is just two laptops, two MacBook Pros that are lighting me right now. I kind of can't understand how they get all of the color. Whoa. Oh. Wow. You didn't see that, but it got very bright in here all of a sudden. It did. So I've been really impressed with the camera, I've got to say. Yeah, it is very impressive. And I have a surprise for you. Oh, good. You want to sit down? Yeah, I want to sit down. We'll go back to the table. Okay. Oh, there's glitter on my seat. That's fine. You know what? I figure I should just stop saying that. There's going to be glitter everywhere. Nobody can touch me. There's going to be glitter everywhere. I'll come back around here without dropping anything. We.org.slash.relay is the place to go to donate money. We're at 178,000 now. It's almost beer time again. We are hurtling towards more beard removal and glitter additions. Thank you so much, everybody. This is unbelievable. Okay, so we're actually getting, if we get to 180, that's not far from 200. We might do that tonight. That'd be amazing. So I should say, that $200,000 goal, we're thinking, oh, maybe we could do it by the end of the month. No, let's do it this evening. I'm all for it. Stjude.org.slash.relay, that's where you can go to donate. So remind people who may have listened to Connected or Upgrade what your plans were for a new iPhone this year. I'm hoping to pick up a 256 Gold Pro Max at some point next week when I return back home because I couldn't pre-order one because I was here. So I have something for you. Okay. I got you something. Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Here you go. Oh, great. It's a clear case. I got you. You were excited about the clear case. That is true. That was what I wanted more than anything. But then I thought maybe you needed something to go in the clear case. Oh, no, glitter. Don't touch it. Keep that over there. Don't touch it because I picked it up and I saw glitter on the reverse. Oh, yeah. I was all over my hand. But I think that you needed something to put in the clear case. Sure. So I got you, you wanted Gold. I got you a Midnight Green Pro Max. Okay. Congratulations. Actually, I should tell you the truth. You paid for half of it. Oh, good. All right. That's good to know. That came from the company. So. Congratulations. Matches me. I can see where this is going. I wanted to prank you and then I was sad today. You're like, oh, I really like the green. It's like, well, that was a joke. This is the thing. Or it's like, this is great. This is what I wanted. Thank you very much. Well, thank you very much. You're half welcome. I am half welcome. This is great. Look at this. So what is this? 256, iPhone 11 Pro Max. Pro Max. I feel like this is the perfect phone to match my suit right now. You want to open it? Get some ASMR in there. Oh, look how glittery I am. You're very glittery. I want to touch it, but I don't want it on my hands. Oh, no, I can just give it to you. No, no. It's going to fall out of the box. No, it's not. Which camera? This camera. There you go. Look at that. It really does match my jacket. It's very nice. Oh, I like it. Wait. I think I heard an ooh from the control room. I want to compare it to the Space Gray. Oh, I actually really love this. It's really nice. They are very close. They're so close. Very close. Maybe we should walk up to the camera. That seems like a lot of work. Thank you very much. I have an iPhone now. Congratulations. You didn't prank me so much because you actually got me something I wanted. Yeah. Sorry about that. What a shame for you. I know. What a shame for you. At least I got you the right size. Sure did. I'm so scared to touch it. Yeah. I definitely can't make a phone call right now, can I? No. Do we want to? I know we have a guest coming up. I'm going to have to get him on the phone. Do we want to? I know we have a guest coming up in just a moment, right? Should we bring in our guest or do you want to put the balls down? I think so. I think we bring in Alex. All right. Everyone's favorite Alex. There she is. Hey. Hi, Alex. There you are. Alex is taking a selfie. We can't hear Alex, but Alex is definitely taking a selfie. Everybody knows Alex. They are the wonderful host. I will call Alex the host of Dubai Friday where people challenge each other, challenge themselves. I heard a sound, which means that Alex disagrees with me. Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you. Hello, Alex. Hello. Alex Cox, welcome to the podcast-a-thon. Thank you so much for having me. You're the first ever podcast-a-thon guest. Yeah, no pressure. It wasn't stressful. I didn't have any other feelings coming on before this. You seem to have a really, really chill thing going on right now. It's mega chill over here. Did you see my glitter face? I did. I'm thinking you're just going to have gold glitter in your laptop for the rest of time. Oh, yeah, and I have the original Mac Pro. That keyboard can definitely handle it. This is going to die based on the glitter. Yeah, you're going to make it through this. That's fine. Who needs to type? Oh, all right. Is there a contingency plan? No. I have an iPad floating around somewhere, a real computer that doesn't get to show up by glitter or just regular diary. So, Alex, I saw you taking a selfie. You've got a phone going on over there. What you got? I know. I was trying to compare the—oh, here's my camera—the color. Oh, what is that? The white? Yeah, well, actually, it's silver. It's silver. Let me see if I can get it. Well, actually. Well, actually, and this is supposedly Alaska blue, but it looks pretty purple. Alex, are you not going for the clear case life? I figured you'd join me on the clear case revolution. Oh, don't worry. I have contingencies. Oh, good. Multiple case. Because of glitter. Yeah, so let's pop this in there, then. And this is exciting for both of us because—oh, boy. Oh, Alex, you dropped it. One of them all lasted. I think I can finally have a pop socket on now. Are you being serious? Yes, I'm being serious. No, no, this is a good thing. No, good thing. Like, it works. Yeah. No, I'm on that pop socket train. You know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the pop sockets have not been working recently with Apple's cases. And you did send me a text at like 3 in the morning. These things tend to—Alex only texts me about pop socket updates. It's just all pop sockets. And she sent me a text that said that they've updated the adhesive on their pop sockets now. So they say— Is that some, like, hashtag— I hate pop sockets. I'm trying to, like, work in a pun with, like, podcast-a-thon and pop sockets. Pop sock-a-thon. Pop sock-a-thon? Pop sock-a-thon. Um, okay. So the pop socket works on the clear case? Because it's not acrylic. It's just, like, a hard plastic. Yeah, that's why it works. Do you ever have, like, the TPU or whatever this stuff is, the silicone? It's just—I don't know what they did. Or if you're like me, you could have just super glued one on to the older case. Oh, wow. I have a lot of respect for that. But I have a concern, and I wonder if you share my concern. The placement of the Apple logo is exactly where I put my pop socket. It's like a target. You get it right on there. I feel like I need to get a very, very illegal Apple pop socket so it still has the logo on. I don't know if it's that important. I mean, you can sneak one of those in there. If I were to be someone who had bought a bunch of off-branded ones from China— If you were to be the kind of person who would do a thing like that. Exactly. I can confirm they don't care what you put on there. Like, you know, the RelayFM logo, Roboism logo. Wait, did you use our logo? No, I did. Okay, that's okay. What? They wouldn't let me use it a second time. If I wanted to use it a second time, they wanted me to sign a bunch of copyright release paperwork. Yeah, don't do that. And I decided that I wouldn't do that because you would probably be quite upset. I'm upset thinking about it. They said it was just so, like, I said it was okay for them to print it. I was concerned it would then mean they could do what they wanted. I think they own the company after that. Oh, is that how that works? Then I need to just go send a quick email. So I do that? I just need to go deal with that. So Alex, how long have you had your phone? Oh, I don't know. 10 a.m. Central Time. Oh, you're in Central Time. Woo! Yeah. Isn't it the best? It kind of is. It is the best. Not really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just for a few hours. I'm missing 3D touch, but other than that... It doesn't feel so good, does it? It's a bit slow, the ol' haptic touch. I just like to think that it's making me more mindful and I am being more conscious every time I take a picture for my Instagram story. Sure. Really? Yeah. Is that what we're going with? Yep. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It's fine. This is fine. And I'm not thinking about the holes on the back at all. Although... It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be, honestly. It's not at all. I actually think it's kind of nice. But when I went into the Apple Store this morning, it was like there were giant insects just covering the walls, like gigantic beady eyes everywhere. And they had like a neon strobe going on. Oh, the posters, I guess. Yeah. It was not pleasant. But were you only—you didn't go for the 11? You didn't get any of the pretty colors? Mm-mm. One of the three cameras. I've really wanted the ultra-wide camera for a long time because it's kind of exciting to me to be able to take different types of pictures. I wanted the ultra-wide and I wanted the telephoto. I didn't want to give that up, right? I'm excited about the ultra-wide, but I've really enjoyed using— I use the telephoto camera all the time. Me too. I would miss it going to the 11. Yeah. And also I wanted all the battery life and the big phone and the screen. I know that the screen is fine mostly. What a ringing endorsement. It's fine. It's okay. The screen on the 11 is totally fine. It's not total garbage. You're going to be able to watch whatever you want and you're barely going to notice it. But I want the OLED because that's the type of person I am. I want to make sure I can get better than 720p. The Max has 720p. When I'm watching YouTube videos, I see the difference between 720p and 1080p. I want to watch them in 1080p. I wish I could watch stuff in 4K, but YouTube and Apple pay each other for that. That's a bit extreme. I don't think it's extreme at all. Alex, there's not a battery case out for the new phones. We know that you are a battery case fan. Aficionado. You're out there catching the Pokemon. 9 to 5 Max says soon, though. They say soon. Yes. How are you going to cope with that between now and then? Are you going to be back with the portable battery in your pocket? Oh, yeah. I already bought one of the portable Qi charging batteries where I'm just supposed to balance it on the top of this, I guess, which I don't understand. It's like a brick charger. Just put a rubber band around the whole thing. That's good. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I do wish they had done the shared charging so that I could just go out and make a Pokemon Go device. Just go the way you did with the pop socket. Glue the Qi charging battery to the phone. I've wondered because isn't that just what, like, that's how the coils work anyway, right? Just minus the, well, glue, whatever. It's all glue. It's glue and heat. That's all I learned. It's glue and heat. It's all it takes. Glue, heat, glitter, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. What else are you excited about with your iPhone? Oh, I mean, I've been watching videos all morning of people dropping their phones and them not breaking, which is very exciting because did I tell you boys what I did the other day? Oh, yeah. What did you do? Oh, this is Pokemon Go related, actually. Just throw it at Pikachu. Oh, that's so much worse than I thought it was. Is it the entire screen? Yeah, you thought it was going to be a bit. It's not a bit. Oh, there's shards of glass going into my laptop. Oh, it's the signed one, too. Alex, don't do that. What you did just now, don't do that. Please stop doing that. Glass raining out of your iPad. I have glitter, too, Mike. Everyone's favorite glitter, glass. And it's awesome. You can see the little, oh, can you see it? You can see the inside. Yeah. That's very upsetting. You know, like that translucent purple Game Boy, I've always wanted an Apple product like that, and I just made my own. You're on your way, I guess. I know. Oh, Alex, what are you going to do about the iPad? Are you going to replace it? Wait, how did you drop it? You didn't actually tell us how you did it. What did you do? My friend Kevin Budnick, frequent co-host on Dubai Friday, a show that I guess I'm plugging on CharityStream. That was weird. Don't do that. Dubai Friday, challenge each other, challenge yourselves. There are these things called raids in Pokemon Go where you have to team up with a bunch of people, with a bunch of Pokemon Go accounts and devices. So we kind of hacked the system and bring out the iPad, and then this just fell right, oh boy, this fell right onto a Chicago sewer crate. But yeah, both of you have signed this. All the grates to fall on, I know. Sparky, Rosemary. So what are you going to do? Because if you take them for AppleCare, they could replace the screen, right? They wouldn't have to take it away from you. I don't know. I guess we'll find out. I will say this isn't really a brag on my part, but this iPad has been taken into repair before. Why would that be a brag, Alex? What? Why would that be a brag? I'm really good at bragging iPads. I'm not bragging, but I've had this iPad repaired. Tim did it. Tim Apple just came up and was like, hello. Very sad to see what you'll do with this. But both Sparky's signature, Stephen Hackett's signature, and well, I don't think any of you know who Cara Fagan is, but her signature was recognized as well. I know Cara from the internet. That's right. She likes the Cubs. Yes, yes. But, yeah, it'll be sad because whenever I do something to my iPad, they're not going to look on the back and see all the nice people who have signed this, but we'll see. I also kind of want to just keep going. As I've been carrying it around, even just now, it's going even more. I'll tell you, that thing's not going to work for much longer, Alex. You're going to lose a piece of it, and it's going to stop working. Don't. Oh, my gosh. Don't put your finger in your iPad. Alex, please stop. Oh, my God, Alex, please stop. I'm so scared. I don't want you to hurt yourself. You're not my dad. That's very true. You know what? It's very true. Go for it. You're talking to us with a bandaged hand, Alex. I'm just a little bit worried for you. That's all. That's why I have a – You can put your documents in there. All right. You've done it now. It's over. It's like a folder. Oh, my God. Oh, it just died. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, well, that's going to happen, isn't it? Yeah, that's over. You take the screen off the front. That's finished. That's going to happen to that when you do that. I feel nauseous. It was still showing my OmniFocus stuff for a little bit, though. I was worried about my app deck, but – I really hope – Wow. Yeah. I desperately don't want you to touch anything inside of that. Yeah. There's power and things in there. Alex, you really go in the full mile here. Stjude.org slash relay. And then, I guess, give to Alex's Patreon so she can buy a new iPad. No, no, no, no. Alex, I have an idea for your iPad. I think I've solved your problem. It's not an iPad anymore because you just separated it. I think maybe – You know, people in their houses have shadow boxes, right, where they put beautiful pieces of art? Yes. And I think maybe you get one of those built for the iPad so you can show all the signatures, and no one has to know what happened to it except the thousands of people watching this. Yeah. Oh, wow. Good job, you guys. Yay. You can see a tiny, tiny little bit in the corner. There's still electricity going on here. Oh, if you push it, it looks pretty. This is the worst I fix it. Oh, it's coming back on. Alex, it came back on. You fixed it. See? See, it's fine. Just hold it like that. Oh, look at it. It's my Apple Store receipt for my genius – for my genius for our appointment tonight. Oh, no. Let's hope that this doesn't, like – there's some kind of exclusion to your Apple care and the genius was watching the stream. That's right. They could be. Like, I don't know what happened. It just popped off on its own. Very strange. I don't know. I was just learning about the awesomeness of St. Jude and just, like, went whoop and mm-mm. So, yeah. You know, you've wanted a foldable phone for a while, Mike. Yeah. Alex is ahead of the curve with the foldable iPad. There you go. Oh, that's really heartbreaking. Alex, you've given us so much more than we were asking for, as always. Oh, no. Thank you. Thank you all so much for having me on here, and I hope that you have a fantastic evening. I'm going to go find another device to watch you on because I can't use this anymore. All right. Good luck. Yeah, good luck, Alex. And we'll talk to you soon. See you. Bye, Alex. Bye. That was Alex Cox, Dubai Friday, and at Alex Cox on Twitter, I believe. Both the chat and I just quickly checked Twitter, they exploded at the moment that Alex pulled her iPad apart. It was very upsetting. I did not expect that to happen. That's what we have now, so thanks, Alex. Yeah. They are the best for that reason. That situation. So we're going to show a video, and then we'll be back, I think, with some more beard updates. I think we also need to read some balls. Okay. Do we want to do that before we do the video? No, let's do that afterwards. Let's do the video first. Video first, and then we'll come back and do some of these. Okay. Let's do it. Okay. Let's do it. That was fantastic. Oh, my God. ♪♪ ♪♪ Oh! Oh! Tell me about your picture. It's sunny, and the clouds are moving in, and it's about to rain really, really hard. It's the ocean. There's me, Papa, and Grandpa. What are you doing at the beach? Swimming. Are you afraid to get in the water? Sometimes. It's safer in the pool. Who are these people? Me and my brother. He cries a lot. Why does he cry? Because we don't pay him attention. ♪♪ Baby sitter. Porque como tú puedes descansar y los niños solo juegan. I want to be a teacher or a lawyer. And I want to be a lawyer because I like to boss the people. I want to be a meteorologist. The wind has reached up to 100 miles per hour. It is getting hard for me to stand out here. Tell me what the most boring job in the world is. Oh, yeah. A mailman. I'm guessing you don't want to be a mailman. No, I do not want to be a mailman. ♪♪ Lasers. Freezing your head off. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Speed, really fast speed. ♪♪ Making lightning is my superpower. I have evil eyes, you see. They're evil eyes because they're green. Evil eyes are green eyes? Some are. What color are your eyes? Green. ♪♪ Well, one wish, meet Steph Curry. Being a mermaid. Second wish is to be on the Weather Channel. A thousand animals. And third wish is to go to Disney World. Maybe baby pigs, some labradoodles, a pet monkey. Yee! When I first saw you, you didn't have any hair. Why is that? Because I had cancer. Do you remember when you didn't have any hair? What did it feel like? I felt pretty because my mom always changed me pretty. I thought when you're a bald head, your hair never grows back. But look at here, it's all the way to my... What do you call this? Shoulder? Hee hee hee hee hee! I made you say it! Can you tell me what it's like to be at St. Jude? Being at St. Jude means the world to me. You can make friends. People here at St. Jude, it's like you're all a family. It's fun being here and I love being here. People are very nice to give money to help at St. Jude. If you had millions of dollars, what would you do with it? I would donate it here at St. Jude to help the kids at St. Jude. Daddy, this is my stinky feet! You've joined us live at Ball Pit! That was the most adorable video I've ever seen. I know. That was awesome. These videos are very beautiful. They're wonderful to watch. And they give us breaks, which is nice. Stjude.org. We are fast approaching the next beard goal. That's right. So you want to go and give there if you want to see... I get eyebrows. Yes. I think the sides go away and I'm just down to a goatee. I can't wait for that. It's going to be very, very good. We have some more balls to read, though. Yeah, let's do some balls. All right, so we have... Well, that name's unpronounceable. But thank you for donating. Yeah. You're the best. Stephen bailed on that one. I did bail on that name. Thank you to Mike from New Hampshire. All right, let's see. Dan from Tennessee. Hey. Oh, fantastic. Someone nearby. Let's see who else. Danny. We got Fred from Virginia. Thank you, Fred, for donating and your support of this awesome mission. You got Benjamin from... Honolulu. Well, Hawaii is the state. We don't know they're from Honolulu. They could be from anywhere in Hawaii. No, I know them. Oh, I've been. All right, I'm going to read the name. You guess the state. Joseph. Florida. I saw it. This is a stupid game. Kerry. New York. That's a bad game. I don't have to guess. You're showing me. Oh, not guess from all of them. Guess what it stands for. You're showing me, though. I thought I just had to randomly guess it. Trevor from... Ontario. Sure. Yes. We don't have an on. Ontario. Canada is a place. Switch on. Switch Ontario. That's what it meant the whole time. It's really good. It's just a place called Switch. Eric from Washington. All right, you want to read some? Yeah. That doesn't have anyone's name on it. This is the issue we have right now. We have Mac from Slevin, California. Sounds good. We're still at 179,000. appreciate it to have lived a full and happy life. The thought of such suffering in children brings tears to AJ's eyes and wants it to donate, and they donated a wonderful amount of money to help beat this horrible disease. Thank you, AJ. Thank you so much to AJ for that donation as well. Oh, I think we just got a note that we'd hit $180,000. We did. Thank you. Livestream, $180,270. Should we just have the glitter applied to me now? Let's do it. I think we need to move towards that. Susan's coming. Susan Glitter, as we'll call her, has been summoned from the control room. I don't think she was expecting it to happen so soon. It's time for me to remove my jacket again. Chief Glitter Officer here. Oh, we're going for the eyes now, right? Is where we're going? Eyebrows, not eyeballs. We need to be very clear about this. Let's be perfectly clear. It's going in my eyes. Right? This is going to be really awesome. Oh, this push up. Oh, boy. This is going to be just a disaster. I hope so. I'm very excited. All right. I'm going to close my eyes. Everyone in chat keeps asking how much we have to raise for you to shave. There's no amount of money that they can raise for me to shave. Like a million dollars? Yeah, you know what? What if we gave you a million dollars to you? That's the opposite of what we're trying to do here. That's a really easy decision. But I don't think I'm comfortable taking a million dollars from St. Jude. I do want to quickly interrupt this and just share that you may think this is fancy beard glue. This is Elmer's all-purpose glue stick like you used in elementary school as a kid. It's cascading down my face. This is horrible. Oh, wow. It's raining glitter. Oh, I can see it. You've got to keep your eyes closed. I can see it. What do you mean keep my eyes closed? For the next six hours? Just until it dries. How do I know it's dry? That's a good question. Just a glue stick. Oh, she's coming with brushes now. Okay, close your eyes. I'll get the extra. It's falling down my face. It's so, so horrible. At least it's not your mouth yet. There. Yeah, so that's the last one is to go. Oh, sorry. That was just the cap. I won't be able to eat after that. Well, you can, but you're going to ingest some glitter. Oh, we're putting more glue on my face. You just have to be ready for that. You have two eyebrows. It's like, oh, do we not tell you the only way to get this glue off is by shaving the hair? Yeah, shaving those eyebrows right off. Double whammy. You thought I had it worse. This is, I've got to say, Mike, you are really beautiful with glitter all over your face. I've never felt like this. I'll try to get some of the excess off. Thank you. Is it hurting you? No, it's not. Not yet. Okay. It's just very uncomfortable. You're very shiny. Wow. That's amazing. Please don't drop that thing of glitter. Oh. No. Yeah, look at that. That is, what did we say that's... This is, this is the thing, isn't it? Yeah. It's very good. That's one pound of glitter, right? I didn't know you could buy glitter in the pound. Maybe I can show the people. We're not, we're probably going to use most of this. When I blow, it's just... Here, show people the one pound. This is what a pound of glitter looks like because that's something that exists in the world. Do, oh my gosh, be careful with that. That is a bomb waiting to go off. Yeah, that lid opens very easily. Very easily. Give that back. Do you have any more messages to read? No. Yeah. Can you see? Yep. Evan from Illinois gave $100 in memory of Enrique's daughter, Ariana. That's awesome. Which is a beautiful thing to do. Thank you so much for doing that. It was really cool to hear his story. He alluded, we've, our families have known each other for a long time. Our kids had treatment together and they're just the sweetest family. And she brought and continues to bring real joy to people. Just an amazing little girl. So thank you. I'm very, I feel so distracted right now. Because of the glitter? It's all I can see. Just look at your pants. Oh man. Wow. Just everywhere. Whoever. I'll still be finding glitter in a year. Whoever comes in the studio next week to like do something, they're just going to be like, what happened in here? The podcast-a-thon happened. That's what happened. Everybody knows podcast-a-thon's full of glitter. Everybody knows that. Well, there's only been one and it was full of glitter. So you're not wrong. You've proved it. Jacket back on. That's good. I think I'm going to get out of the ball pit now. Now let me just throw some balls at you first. Okay. They're still all over the place. Bill from Cincinnati, Ohio. Let me see. You read that one. It says T-S-Z something from Canada. Yeah. Let me try like Z-C-S-M. There we go. We'll go with that. Jonathan from Perry, Texas. I'm afraid to touch you, but I just want to fix this. Thank you. That was definitely what I needed right now. We have Dan from Chicago, Illinois. I caught him. Michael from McCluck, Colorado. Colorado. That's right. Let's get some balls thrown in from the side. I missed that. I'm going to try and clear up a little bit. That's a real mess. What else do we have coming up on the stream today? We have another guest. We're going to be joined by Federico Vatici in a little while. Oh, here we are. Federico had a big day yesterday. Coming off his iOS 13 review, which was really good. You were pulling a lot of things with you. Okay. I found the limit. Please stop walking. I found my limit, and I'm being told to return. Come back. I was just trying to clean up a little bit. Yeah. We're going to be joined by Federico, and we also, a little bit later on, have something that Jason Snell put together for us. Yes, we do. This is going to be really awesome. We have another interview, and we're going to talk a little bit more about what we've seen here at St. Jude this week. Yeah, because we were on a wonderful tour yesterday, so that's going to be a thing that we'll be talking about soon too, which is really great. We still are going to be taking your donations at stjude.org. to help support this incredible place, and also, oh, the glue is drying. Okay. I'm going to let you deal with that. I'm going to go deal with this, and we're going to let people watch a really cool patient story. Okay, great. Oh, yeah. You like this? Guess I have to show it. Calvin! He's not shy, not embarrassed. Here we go. ♪♪♪ Yeah! That was amazing. Yeah, you feel me? You feel me? My name is Calvin. I am 10, and yes, I remember everything since day one. It's like, it just happened so fast. I was in third grade. I felt really different. I felt sick. He was complaining about headache. Headache, headache, after headache. And I felt bumps after bumps in my head. I was just like, mind-blowing. So we went to the emergency room. They did a CAT scan. And that was my first ever scan. And then they scanned me, and then... They just told us the bad news, like, oh, he's diagnosed with a tumor on his head. And then my mom was, she was nervous, scared, and she was crying. It's just, it's just heartbreaking to hear, you know, my child have to go through this. ♪♪♪ I had four surgery. July, August, September, October. Four surgery, back to back to back to back. And then after he recovered from the surgery, he have to go through two months of radiation. He didn't complain at all. I remember when I woke up out of surgery, and when I had to do radiation, I was actually happy because it was just amazing to be alive. Nothing is perfect in life, but it's okay. As long as I'm healthy, I'm happy. Welcome back. Thanks. Good to see you. We come back every three months for follow-up. So far, according to the doctor, everything is good news. Look at it today. Isn't that amazing? Just a tiny little spot. Fantastic. What do you think? I like it. I've done nothing, but I like it. Good. We made it through. You did it. I am feeling really good, and I just, I'm so happy that I was brought to St. Jude. Have you been to the eye clinic yet? My doctor is Dr. Merchant. He's the best, and if it wasn't for his support, I wouldn't be here. I love you. I love you too. Gotcha. Nurses Day was excellent. I got nicknames for them. The funny one is Chicken Wing, and Cookie Jam, and Candy Crush, and Jackie Chan. Good, Jackie Chan. Say hi to Laura. I just like being silly with them, and they enjoy laughing with me. Angel, precious angel. You know, my nickname is really special. We love St. Jude. Just so great, so thankful. It's just great to be here. St. Jude means everything to me. It's like always, always going to be in my heart. Will you take us out with one more song? Oh yeah. I feel swag. Yep, yep, yep. I really, really look forward to, you know, playing video games with Zach. Carson is nice and kind, and he loves video games. We both really like video games. So I knew he'd be a friend from the moment I first saw him. I love him. It's a button sequence that you have to do. You got to do the left stick up twice, and then press, which one was it? B and up at the same time. B and up at the same time. I call him sometimes when he's in his transplant, and he would, you know, kept remembering when I'd have my amputation. We always, like, play with each other, and we talk about the good things and encourage each other to do good at our appointments. And we make jokes. Yeah. There was this one time when me and Zach were going to go to the zoo, but I didn't feel good enough to be able to go. So we just played video games after when I was better. Mm-hmm. Good job. Pretty much get together and just play games and have fun and don't really think about the other stuff. I may ask if your appointments went well today or if you were feeling good, but... We focus on our friendship and just make that, like, our main goal and just don't worry about all the pain and stuff like that. I don't have to take pain medicine as much, and they help distract me, and it's helped a lot. Cancer has come back a few times. Now it's gone again, so I'm going to go home soon. We're going to, you know, play online and FaceTime each other so we can talk and see each other, even from far away. Uh-oh, wrong button, wrong button. Uh-oh. You're going to get to see Dad. Oh, man. I just want to say that St. Jude is a great place, and they've given me my life back. All the treatments and surgeries and everything else, I think it's great that no matter what, people always help us kids at St. Jude. Good game! I know those videos are tough, but this is a wonderful place that does wonderful things and helps give these children a better life, and that's why we're here, right? We're here because both Stephen and me, through extension, of being his best friend for nearly a decade, I've seen a lot of this, and I've seen how it affected his family, and it makes this a very, very special place to us. I know I'm covered in glitter, but I mean it. All right, so Stephen is currently somewhere having his hair removed on his face because we met the goal. So thank you so much, stjude.org. We can continue giving. I guess I'm vamping right now because he's gone. I can read some names, but I know we have a chat, right? So we are streaming this live on Twitch, of course. That's where people are watching us, and thank you so much to everyone that is tuning in. If people have any questions, they want me to talk about anything, feel free to ask me those questions. I can read some names, and we can talk about some stuff. So I want to just thank everybody again for going to stjude.org. We're doing really, really fantastically, and it's thanks to all of you. We have some more stuff coming up later on. We're going to be talking to Federico Vatici. We're going to be talking to him about the new iPhone, about iOS 13, and all of that wonderful stuff while we are broadcasting live here from St. Jude. So I want to thank some of the wonderful people who have been donating to us throughout this evening, like Eric from College Station. And College Station, interesting, in Texas, is a great name. So we have these names written down. They're being every time somebody donates over $50, they get their name on one of these wonderful balls, and we're throwing them into our beautiful ball pit. That's Anthony from Lawrence in New Jersey. St. Jude is a very important place here for us at RelayFM. We believe in trying to support it because we've seen some of the wonderful ways that they have supported. So we're going to be talking shortly as well about a tour that me and Stephen took. We got to spend some time here yesterday on campus, and we got to speak to some really interesting people about some of the stuff that St. Jude is doing to not just help with cancer patients and children with cancer, but also St. Jude is a place where they are doing research into things that are related, right? So they're trying to solve other types of problems in the medical field because it also helps their patients as well. And in being a research hospital, they're doing some incredible stuff for that. So thanks to Paul from Maplewood, New Jersey, for their donation, and thanks to JD from Frisco in Texas. Thanks to everybody who's here and who's watching along. This is really an incredible thing. We're doing this for six hours in total today, so we're kind of encroaching on one hour and a half down. I'm kind of a little bit jealous of Stephen because he keeps going away, right? I feel like he's having breaks while you little boy here is sitting talking to the camera for the entire time. I wonder how long does it take somebody to shave some hair off their face? I guess we're going to find out. Thank you to Jeremy in Orlando, Florida, for their donation. Jeremy, thank you so much, and to Eric in... I don't even know this. I'm assuming now I'm just going to say that in Alabama there's a place called Dekotor, because that's what it reads to me. So now there is one. It sounds like a dinosaur or a Pokemon or something like that. We have the wonderful Jason Snell who's going to be joining us a little bit later on, and Jason also put together a wonderful thing, a video, that's going to give me and Stephen a break, but it's also going to be great for you all. If any of you had seen our Family Feud event that we did a couple of weeks ago in San Francisco, I think that you're going to enjoy that event as well. I'm being told by the chat that it is Dekator. But I prefer Dekotor. And I've also just been told in my ear as well, and everybody's laughing at me in the control room, but I think that they should rename the place to Dekotor. I have a really nice... They support me in the control room, so that's great. And I should say that, right? We have this incredible set here. This is like... We feel so professional today. There are multiple cameras. The cameras are moving. I can see myself on a screen. We have this... I don't know what these things are called, but it's like some kind of infinity wall or something. We put a ball pit in it because that's what we do. There's multiple cameras. There's a control room. Oh, look, there's more cameras! I'm finding out about cameras I didn't even know we had. And look at all these lights. This is all of the stuff that St Jude has because to facilitate stuff like this. Fundraising is so important. So Alstack built this... Alstack, which is the fundraising arm of St Jude, built all of these studios to allow people like us to come here so we can talk to wonderful people like you. I'm in this camera now. And we can talk to wonderful people like you and try and get money out of you at stjude.org. I've just been told an incredible number that I'm not going to say right now because I want to wait for Stephen to come back. So thank you so much to everybody that has been donating. stjude.org. We want to get to $200,000, and to do that, we need your help. That's what we're aiming for tonight. We started this whole thing out at $75,000. That was what we wanted to get to. And we want to see if we can try and get it now to $200,000, which is incredible. We are so humbled by the support of our audience that has enabled us to raise this amount of money. It is an incredible amount of money that you have donated to us. And I said this today, and I'll probably say it a few more times over the next few hours. What camera am I looking at right now? Here we go. When I woke up this morning, I had a feeling that I haven't had before, that I genuinely feel like today is probably the most important day of my career. Being able to be here and have this kind of support from everybody here at Allsack, but also from all of you, the people that have decided to tune in, the people that are giving us money, this feels incredibly important. This isn't just about me putting glitter on my face and having a good time with Stephen. We're doing something that is allowing us to change people's lives outside of our own. We have been able to get to the point in our careers where we can have an audience that is large enough and engaged enough and excited enough about what we're doing that they will raise nearly $200,000. We genuinely were worried about this. We had no idea what it was going to be like when we started out, and we thought, wouldn't it be incredible if we could finish the month at $100,000? And the generosity that you have all shown is absolutely unbelievable, and it has made me feel like what I'm doing has a little bit more meaning than it did a few weeks ago, so thank you for that. Thank you to Ron from Ithaca in New York for their donation. And I will now say at this point, where is Stephen? Where is he? How long does it take to shave? That's what I want to know. Laura from Stilwell in KS, which I'm going to say is Kansas. I got a round of applause from the audience we have here, which means I definitely got that one correct or I said something so ridiculous. All right, so thank you to everybody who's been tuning in and donating, including Brian from Westford in Massachusetts. I need to take a sip of water right now, so I apologize for that because I'm the only one here. I'm adding this thing on my own now. Oh, he came back. He came back. Where have you been? You look so amazing. Stephen's back, everybody. Touch it. It's very smooth. Yep. Oh, that was smooth. Do you want to touch mine? It's very glittery. I do not want to touch yours. So I've been waiting for you because we have an update, a fundraising update that we wanted to do and I didn't want to do it without you. We have passed $195,000. Holy cow. So... That was... Wow. Should I go back and take another break? Yeah, believe it or not, that all happened while you were away. Like, finally. Stephen's gone. That's amazing. Thank you so much. That's awesome. Yeah, I can't believe it. I have goosebumps. Like, I'm not... I have actual goosebumps under here. It's very sweaty goosebumps, but they're there. They're goosebumps, but they're the same. I think sweaty goosebumps are the best kind of goosebumps. That's my new band name. Sweaty Goosebumps. $195,000. Thank you so much, everybody. But we still got more to go. We have hours left to go. We do. There's money left to raise. That's right. YouTube.org slash relay. This camera is where I'm supposed to be looking. People are pointing at it. I was reading something from the screen, but nevertheless, now I know my camera. There's a big light on it when it's on. Yeah, but sometimes the light is on, but it's not the camera. What? What are they doing in the control room? I think. Or I get very confused. Maybe they're just messing with you. I get very confused. I'm getting a little bit stir-crazy. We've been here for nearly two hours. Oh, yeah, well, spoiler alert. I told people we would... Four more to go. Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. I don't want to do that. So we reached an incredible amount of money. $195,000. That's amazing. A lot of this actually has come from one individual in a total you've been away. Oh, wow. Okay. So somebody by the name of Nathan in Seattle. Wow, Nathan. Donated $12,000. Nathan, that's amazing. Thank you so, so much for that. That is unbelievable. Yes. Thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts. That is absolutely incredible. I've been told that there is a box of balls that will need to be handed. Just for Nathan. Oh, wow. Our thanks to you, Nathan. So, Nathan, this is your box of balls. I don't know if this is what you were looking for from all of this, but, Nathan, thank you so much for that. There's a box of balls for you, which are going to get dumped into the ball pit now. I don't think anybody can see this. There we go. Now it's Nathan's balls being dumped into the ball pit. Thank you, Nathan, for your donation. It's always disconcerting when I can hear laughter from far away. So that means we should probably do some kind of beard update soon because there's still more to go, but I don't know what our numbers are going to look like now. But before we do that, should we talk about St. Jude a little bit? I've been talking for a very long time, so I'm going to let you handle most of this while I take a walk break. Okay. One of my absolute favorite things about this organization is the work that St. Jude does to care for the whole family. So, of course, if you think about a situation like mine where our six-month-old was diagnosed with a brain tumor, the most devastating, shocking news that I think my wife and I will ever get was in that moment. And I don't know, maybe I know, I think you're probably this way, maybe a lot of people watching and listening are this way. When I'm in a situation like that, my first response is, what can I do to fix it? I like doing things. I like logistics. I like trying to solve problems. And the reality is when you're in that situation, you're not able to fix it yourself. You just, you can't. It's too big. And you have the health stuff and you have financial concerns and you have all of these things. Like, if you're not in Memphis, how do I get to this hospital? And my favorite thing about what St. Jude does is that they take care of all of those things. They take the weight off the shoulders of the parents or the grandparents, aunts and uncles, all the family. And that means like real nuts and bolts things, right? So you have meals on campus paid for. If you are not from Memphis, and we're fortunate that this is our hometown, if you're not from here, your transport, like Enrique was saying, is paid for. I meet a lot of families. In fact, I met a family this summer just in the airport. I had a St. Jude pin on my backpack, and this gentleman noticed it, and he kind of told me his story about they were from the Midwest, and they had a patient here at St. Jude, and he was traveling back and forth to kind of keep his company at home going, but being here for his child's treatment. And it really blew me away that he's traveling back and forth. They have family here. They're split up, but St. Jude is taking care of those expenses so they can focus on getting their child better. And when you add to that that the care you're getting here is the best in the world, we're going to talk about our tour later, we keep alluding to it, scientists and researchers and doctors and nurses and everyone in between, pulling towards the same goal of ending childhood cancer. So Danny Thomas's vision that no child should die in the dawn of life becomes true. And you think about like in that family's life, that means an airplane ride to Ohio and back. And those nuts and bolts types of things are made possible because of what we're doing here today. And because of what you, the audience are doing over at St. Jude.org slash relay. It's hard, you know, cancer is a big thing to think about. A children's hospital is a big thing to think about. But the way I approach it is that gentleman I met in the airport or Enrique and his family and these other people that we've met and talked to over the years here, it means real change in real people's lives. And that's why we're so fired up about doing this because St. Jude takes care of those logistics, those needs, in addition to the great medicine that's taken care of. And it means the world to me. And you're actually going to hear from my wife in a little bit to tell you some more about our story. But it means the world to thousands of families past me. So thank you for being part of this. So we did get to go on a tour yesterday. We did. And I've done the tour before here and I got to see some stuff again that I'd seen. And it's really an incredible place. And being able to see the way that this whole campus, this whole institution has been built, it's really incredible to see how everything has been thought out. And you can see firsthand why this place costs, what is it, $2.3 million a day, something like that, I think, to operate. It's over $2 million. $2.4, I've just been told by the control room, thank you, control room. $2.4 million a day it takes to run St. Jude. And that is because of the incredible support that they're able to give to these families. And that is paid for by donations from people like our listeners, which is frankly astounding. Do we want to talk about the special stuff that we got to see yesterday? Yeah, absolutely. So through my experience with St. Jude, I know it as a hospital, but St. Jude is also a research institution. In fact, a lot of the campus here in Memphis is dedicated to that. They're building a new building right out that door that's going to be research labs. So we met with a team yesterday in the infectious diseases lab, which I was a little nervous about that name. Terrified to go in that room. That was very scary. There was an ice maker in the hallway that said, ice not for human consumption. It's like contaminated ice. That's very. Yeah, I was very scared. They have lots of filters though. Yes. They were telling us about their air conditioning, how it filters everything out, which I felt a lot better about. But I still didn't touch anything. No, didn't touch a thing. But this team is working to address staff. You've heard of staff infections in hospitals. Very often can be sadly a very serious situation. And there are a lot of drugs that we used to use for that don't work anymore. And this team is working to fix that. So they look at the world and see problems. Of course that affects kids with cancer, but that affects all sorts of people. And these types of diseases hurt everybody, can hurt everybody. And this team at St. Jude, again, funded by what we're doing here, is working to design a new drug to take care of this bacteria. And they showed us all sorts of things that like, I don't know about you. I didn't understand. I mean, I got like most of the chemical biology they were talking about. No, it was amazing. We mentioned it to the investigative scientist, investigative researcher. And they said, yeah, because I had to make up a bunch of these words. Yeah. Of course you haven't heard them. So you can't understand what this is because this word only exists to people that know what I know, which is kind of an interesting thought, but I guess it makes sense. Yeah, it was really neat. And this research is happening here, but St. Jude shares that research. And so this team, if they are successful in their trials, this drug will go out to the world hopefully one day and help cure people, not just here, not just kids here, but people all around the world of all ages. And that's amazing that that work is happening here in what is already an amazing institution. Right. Like it's already an amazing place if you didn't meet this doctor and know what they're doing. But now because we have and we do, I feel like we have a new found appreciation of the research side of the institution. Yeah. Yeah, it was a wonderful thing to be able to see. And some of the machinery that they have available to them. Yeah. Like there was one machine that like it created a vacuum. So like things could be analyzed, like particles could be analyzed and stuff. And the vacuum that it creates is the same atmospheric pressure as space. It's like something like that. Yeah, so they can when they interact with these molecules, they know exactly what they're going to get because there's no friction from the atmosphere. There's no contaminants anywhere because all the air has been sucked out of it. And I mean, this machine is like, I mean, it's the size of a refrigerator, right? I mean, I'm sure they're very expensive. It looked like pretty complicated to run. Like there were some buttons and stuff. Maybe we could have worked it out after a while. Yeah, I mean, we could have got there. How hard can it be, right? To run a mass spectrometer. But it was neat to see those behind the scenes and people who are extremely passionate about helping people around the world. And I mean, this team, this is their life's work. That's really what I walked away with. And I think the cures in this research, it's not something that happens overnight. This team has been working on this and will be working on it for years. And that level of dedication, and I'm sure he spoke about this, sometimes in research it's one step forward and two steps back as you go down roads that don't lead anywhere. And I would imagine that you must be so wholly dedicated to what you're doing so that doesn't become frustrating over a career. It was really humbling and exciting to see that firsthand. And to be in a lab where science is happening was really cool. Yeah, I've continued to find it just more humbling, really. That's the word I keep coming back to. Because it showed how this institution is doing so much more than just the name on the outside of the building. Like childhood cancer, right? Like it's Children's Research Hospital, but it's doing so much more. And it's going to great steps to create cures for diseases and other things that affect children with cancer, but also children without cancer, adults in all countries around the world. Like I've heard multiple stories now of things that St. Jude, research that St. Jude has created that has gone on to make massive changes to all kinds of illnesses and diseases around the world. Staff kills tens of thousands of people a year just here in the US. And globally, of course, it's even higher. And if this team is successful and they're on the track to that now, that literally changes the world. That's a phrase that gets thrown around by tech companies, but they don't know what it means in the light of what it means here. And if you're watching this and you're thinking St. Jude is a hospital in one place in a state in America, right? Like if that's what you're thinking, like why would I donate money to them? Or like why is Mike, a guy from London, so focused on this? Why does he have glitter on his face? Why is he doing that to himself? It's because the things that are done here affect everybody because this is a place which believes in making people better. Like it is a place that believes in finding cures for all kinds of situations, all kinds of illnesses and diseases. And that's just another reason why I love St. Jude the way that I do. It's really inspiring to meet these people who dedicate their careers to this. And it's just amazing that people wake up every day with that on the front of their minds and they come into work every day to do that. And we were talking about this earlier. Over the years I've met a lot of people all over St. Jude. And everyone here, if you're a researcher or a doctor or you're on the roof fixing the air conditioning unit, whatever, everyone I've met here over the years works towards that mission in their own way. So this researcher, he's not working where my kid was in the clinic and stuff. But he knows that his work does affect them. And it was really inspiring to see that at a whole new level. And it gives me a new appreciation for the word research in the name of this hospital. So I think next up we're going to be talking to our wonderful co-host, Mr. Federico Vettigin, who seems very late for Federico. He's staying up late for us. But we'll have him join us and talk about a Windows 10 update or maybe a Zoom or something. He's really into Microsoft. I think that's his favorite subject right now. Do we know if we have Federico on the line? We're standing by for Federico. All right. I'm going to awkwardly put my earpiece back on on camera. You didn't have it in? I don't know what's happening. You should have it. Hey, guys. Oh, here he is. I heard him. Federico. We are joined by Federico Vettigin of MaxStories.net and the Connected podcast on RelayFM. That's a good show. Hello, Federico. I love you. Hey, Mike. I love you too. Hi, Steven. I don't think Steven can hear you right now. So I put it in my ear, but I forgot to plug it in. Steven is currently unplugged. He hasn't got his CIA earpiece plugged in. So he's plugging it in now. Let me tell you something, Mike. Hey, buddy. Oh, he's plugged it in now. You can't tell me secrets now. I can hear you now. I'm sorry. Okay. So I got to say, first of all, this is an amazing show that you guys are putting on. Thank you so much to Sanju for such an amazing organization. And I'm very close to this topic myself. So this is really awesome. But I got to say, Mike, I've been keeping these thoughts to myself for the past 20 minutes. I was watching the stream with my Italian friends. You look like a mix of Tingle from The Legend of Zelda. And the old, you remember the first Pokemon movie at the cinema? Yes. They used to hand out the shiny ancient Mew trading card. Yeah. You look like a mix of that with all that glitter. Shiny ancient Mew is perfectly good for me. I'm happy with that. Steven, you have a tiny resemblance to the main character from Half-Life, the video game, Gordon Freeman. But if you were Gordon Freeman working at an Apple store. I'm going to Google this. He's Tech Freeman. He's Tech Gordon Freeman. I'll take the shiny Mew more than I'll take the Tingle reference. Our stream is seeing a glorious photo of you right now. Oh, yeah. That's someone that's, man. I think this was maybe taken by John Siracusa or James Thompson. I lifted it from John Siracusa. And your hair's blowing in the wind as at WWDC and you're wearing your beautiful mirror glasses. You look very good. That's a very poetic picture. Thanks, John. Poetic picture. Like all good pictures. Federico, you had a really big week. We were texting earlier, but let me say to you for the first time, congratulations on the iOS 13 review. It is truly a work, I think, unparalleled in even your own history. Both its depth and its attention and love you poured into it is just amazing. So congratulations on that. I'll say this here. I said it on Twitter to somebody, but I'm going to say it now. Because people said, oh, he's like the John Siracusa for iOS reviews. And I replied to this guy and said, no, he's just the teachee for reviews now. That's right. We all love everything that John has done. He's coming on later. Be nice. Oh, yeah, he is. I forgot about that. I love John Siracusa. He's my favorite. But John did incredible work with the Mac OS reviews for years and years. And I think for a time, it was like, oh, yeah, Federico's doing what John did. But you are going to much bigger lengths now. Like you are doing your thing now. So I just wanted to say that to you and say it to everybody else as well. Thank you. That's very kind of you. It's always, you know, there's always that. And I didn't actually get a lot of critics this year. That's good. I actually only got, and this was kind of funny, I only got one person on Twitter saying, I checked out your iOS review, and it was not the Bible I was promised. Interesting. I was pretty happy with that. So thank you so much. That really means a lot to me and all the folks who have been reading the review. It's always, it's a huge project every year to the point where, you know, I'm still learning to find my balance in the summer, you know, spending time with my girlfriend and my friends, instead of having to write like 15 hours a day. But it's always worth it in the end. And I have a very patient girlfriend who's watching the stream right now in the other room. So this is not awkward at all. Well, I can tell you that our wives are like sitting just like there. So that's like a whole thing that we have going on. Naveen is waving at me. So Federico, how has the, you said the haters haven't been out, but how has the response been to the review? And if you're willing to share, how is it done compared to previous reviews? It's mostly on track to beat last year's review by a tiny margin right now, which I think depends on the fact that last year the review came out on a Monday and this time it came out on a Thursday. So it's later in the week and maybe people are doing something else. But despite that, it's still, so we're looking at about 300,000 page views in the first 24 hours. Wow. Yeah, four terabytes of content transferred via our CTN. Club Max, yeah, I'm just giving you some numbers. Club Max stories, signups are up 350%. Yeah, it's very nice. And it makes sense because it's actually a book. It's 76,000 words. That's how I'm reading it. I'm reading the EPUB version on my iPad. It's great. I'm going through the website because I've got to click around. I don't know how you feel about this, Federico, but I don't read the review in chronological order. No, that's totally fine. I feel totally okay. I read the introduction, and then I read a bunch of stuff. I read the conclusion, and then I go back and maybe read the things I'm not as interested in. There are just parts of the operating system that don't excite me. I want to know what you think about shortcuts and iPadOS before I want to know necessarily what you think about, I don't know, like – Photos. Photos or Siri or like performance and setup. There's no Siri. Performance and setup is where I started because it's the first section. There's nothing about Siri at all, though? There's a small box about Siri, but because we had one of the Mac Stories guys, Ryan, do a separate story about Siri. That's right. But that's totally fine, Mikey. If anything, more than ever, I think this review, I very much took a modular approach to writing this review because it was so difficult. By the end, I basically just accepted this reality. It was impossible to come up with a single theme, so with a single idea that would flow top to bottom in the story. So there's a bunch of ideas, a bunch of themes, and I think it's totally fine to jump around and pick and choose the chapter that you prefer. How do you decide what makes it in there? So what I'm thinking of is John wrote a great CarPlay review earlier in the summer. That could have been in the iOS 13 review. How do you decide what gets broken out to its own coverage? Well, see, Mr. John Voorhees is a very special type of story here because John wrote the CarPlay and Game Controller stories, for example. You've got to understand that, first of all, John has not a problem but quite a peculiar obsession with game controllers and accessories. So it totally made sense to assign that story to John. He really likes his video games. Even though he doesn't play them, he just buys them for some reason. Also, John has a CarPlay car. So I don't have a CarPlay-enabled car, so that made sense. But I think you've got to buy a new car. Yeah, what are you doing? Just do what Steven did and just tinker around with the wires inside of there. That's right, and CarPlay comes alive. I'll just text my accountant at midnight saying I'm going to expense a new car. Yeah. But I think, I don't know if I did a perfect job assigning the stories this summer that I didn't write about because it was the first time that I find myself in this situation of I'm just not going to be able to do it all myself. If you take into account the stories that the team did and my review, I believe it's well over 120,000 words. Phew. If you combine my review and those 10 stories. And I think going forward, this is the only approach that I can follow because I cannot write about accessibility. For the foreseeable future, I will not be able to write about CarPlay. And I think more than ever, if anything, next year, I'm probably going to double down on this strategy of I need to be very careful with the topics that I write about because iOS is more than just an operating system at this point. And there's so many features that, you know, game controllers and the car and the watch. So you've got to write about health and activity. It's really impossible for a single person to do it all. I would need six months, but I don't have six months. So, yeah, next year, probably going to... It's not even just about the time. You still want to be able to enjoy it. You don't want to write about stuff you're not interested in because that's just a slog, right? You don't want to do that. No, no. It already... I very much hit my limit this year. Between the iPad story that I did back in May, I did a story called Beyond the Tablet where I talked about having used an iPad Pro as my main computer for a few years. And at the time, Mike and Steven, I told you guys, oh, well, I did this story now because I wrote a lot before WWDC, which means I have my work already cut out for September. Well, taken care of. No problem. I'll just copy and paste. I'll refer back to the previous story. No issue. I'll just be a linked list and be done, you know. Well, it didn't really go as planned. It didn't pan out that way. I want to talk to you about reminders a little bit. I know that it obviously got a big overhaul in iOS 13, a lot of new features, so many new features actually that if you upgrade from 12 to 13, it will break syncing with older devices and the Mac until Catalina comes out. And I've been trying reminders. I will say that the sharing, like sharing a list with somebody is still pretty broken even in 13.1. But I know you've spent a lot of time with it, so I'm curious, is reminder something you feel like more people can move to? Does it give people enough sort of power features to compete with something like Things or Todoist or even OmniFocus? Or do you think Apple still has a way to go to get there? Well, I don't think it can compete with the more advanced task managers, like OmniFocus, for example. Even Things, if you customize the app enough with projects and headings and sections and tags, really, Things looks more intuitive and easy than it actually is. It can be quite a complex app. But I think reminders, what Apple did this year, is basically fixing all that went wrong six years ago with iOS 7. And they somehow, they were able, and this is something that I've heard, and I've actually haven't even shared on Connected, but some of the people that, you know, so just a little scoop, I guess, for this. Exclusive, podcast on exclusive happening right now. Some of the people that worked on the Notes relaunch in iOS 9 were assigned years ago to the reminders team. Right, that makes sense. And so you could see that approach of, we want to rebuild an app that's still easy and intuitive. It's still going to be the default solution for millions of people, but how can we design it? How can we bring in new functionalities so that it can scale to more advanced users? And so you look at reminders in iOS 13, and you see, for example, you can include subtasks. So you can create a reminder and create additional tasks inside that reminder. But that feature, which I've taken advantage of myself throughout the summer, it's really well done. But that feature is not exposed to you until you go look for it. So you either got to open an inspector or you need to swipe on a reminder and use indentation. So I believe when I talked to Craig Federighi on my other podcast... Well, I talked to my buddy Craig. Casually drop an interview with Apple's SVP of software development. That time I ran into Craig and we did a podcast together. You know, we all have these stories. Yeah, we've all been there, right? No, not all of us. You know, and when I was talking to Eddie Q... I'm kidding. You should have heard what Johnny had to say. But I guess he had this thought of using this idea of progressive disclosure in software to be able to ship more power user features without necessarily overcomplicating the interface for most people. So I guess the idea is that if someone knows to look for those things, they're the type of user who would use those things. Yes, exactly. So that power is available for you, but you got to go look for it. That's sort of how, like you, Stephen, you can open up a computer, you have the tools, you know where to look, and you can do indescribable things to a computer, but most people don't and don't want to. I found out something very upsetting because I wanted to move to reminders, right? You know the natural language text kind of stuff? You say like, oh, Friday at 2pm, it pops up on the QuickType bar? That does not work with third-party keyboards. Oh, no. Oh, wow. Rest in peace. So you have to choose between reminders and Gboard? I do have to choose between reminders and Gboard. So my plan is to actually give reminders the shot that I wanted to give it and use the Apple keyboard when I'm using it and see if reminders is exactly what I wanted, which I think it might be, to the point that then I'm like, all right, well. I mean, because there are two features in Gboard mainly, which is emoji search and swipe typing, and swipe typing is on the Apple keyboard now. And it's pretty good. So I could live with it. But it all depends on whether reminders is the right app for me. I mean, I'm already leaving Google Chrome. What? Two out of two is Chrome and Gboard. I'm slowly pulling myself away from Google Chrome on my iOS devices, especially because Safari is so good on iPadOS. Mike is jumping on that privacy train. He's afraid of Google. It's absolutely nothing to do with privacy. He's on the desktop browser train. I'm on the desktop browser train. If Google turned around and be like, oh, we did it too, I'd be like, all right, thanks, Chrome. Going back to you. I'm back. Thanks, Chrome. I'm back, baby. Well, you know, technically they could because the desktop class browsing thing in iPadOS is actually open to developers. It is, as a very wise guy might say, it is a deep and open framework. Deep and open. Wow, very framework-y. It's open to developers. They could use it. So in theory, it should be possible. Well, Google's track record of adopting new iOS features is so good, we'll see it in about three years. Yeah, so the countdown has begun for Google Docs, multiple windows. Oh, gosh. The countdown. How long did it take for them to add split screen and slide over? I don't know, but we're now going to make it a follow-up point on every episode of Connected. That's a big promise. Yes. It's easy to do. It's just like, is it updated yet? Yes or no, and then we move on. Sometimes we'll rant a little bit, and then we'll move on. It's fine. Wow. Should we say what's happened while we've been talking to Federico? We can celebrate with him. Yes, Federico, we want to celebrate with you. Oh, yeah? I assume you're sitting down. I'm thinking about your office. I am. You're probably sitting down. We have broken $200,000. Whoa. Which is amazing. Thank you so much. Oh, look, there's confetti and everything. That is amazing. We said we wouldn't change the goal again. I think we should. But we're changing the goal again. We now want to raise a quarter of a million. Let's just do it. That sounds lovely. Why not? That's a nice round number. It's easy to say. Because, look, we've only been here for two hours. We have how many more? 37. Four more hours to go. We have to have someone to aim for. So I also, part of this, I feel a little bit embarrassed about this because a friend of the Podcastathon, Jeremy Burge, who created Emoji, I don't know if people know him or not, and also runs Emojipedia, he was texting me today, like, very strongly insisting that we set a quarter of a million as the goal, telling me that we definitely could do it, and I was too scared to do it. I have been, throughout this entire process, the scaredy cat about raising the goal, and everyone at Allsac keeps saying to both of us, just keep putting it up. It's fine. And it is fine. Our audience is amazing. Everyone is incredible. We want to see if we can raise a quarter of a million dollars now because let's just give it a go. So stju.org.com.au, but no matter what happens, it doesn't matter if we meet that goal now because we have raised $200,000. That's amazing. We came here to raise $75,000, and we have raised $200,000. Thank you so, so much. But why don't we just keep going? So let's try and raise $250,000. In Italian, $200,000 would be duecentomila, which also sounds very cool. Can you tell me how to say $250,000? Duecentosinquantamila. Can you say that slowly? Okay, so follow along. Duecento. Cinquanta. Mila. Okay, say it all together, all together now. I've forgotten the first part. No! We need to do it a couple of times. Just say it again. Duecento. Cinquanta. Mila. Duecento. Cinquanta. Mila. Yeah! There we go. All right, good job. Perfect. Good job. Perfect. We have John Siracusa on later. I'll see if he can say it. Yeah. He's going to correct your pronunciation of it. He pretends to know Italian, by the way. Oh, boy. That's why I want to see if he can do it. So, John, if you're out there, that's coming for you. Federico, I have another question for you. We've gotten a lot of questions today via email and Twitter of people who have not updated to 13.0 and who kind of want to know if they should update to 13.0 or wait for 13.1 next week. Do you have any advice for those people still hanging out on iOS 12? Well, I mean, it's Saturday for me, so the update is coming out in three days. At this point, you might as well just wait it out until 13.1, because it really does fix a lot of bugs. And that's unfortunate, because a lot of people actually upgraded to iOS 13. I did. Yeah, exactly. They wanted to get the new Memoji or maybe you're like Mike and you just want to try new beta features. Actually, just new features. I stayed off the beta on my phone. I waited until 13 came out. Good job. Apple said, this is good. So I was like, all right, I'll give it a go. It's been fine. I would actually say for me, my phone feels snappier now on 13. The animations are moving faster. I've not run into any serious problems. Can I tell you a story about old Macs? Yeah. Federico's hung up. Yeah. Bye, TT. But for a long time, when there was a new version of Safari, Apple's browser, it started as a real thing, but then it became sort of a meme was, oh, it feels snappier. So like, there'd be like, you know, Safari beta to version one, version two, etc. That was always like the joke, especially in the Mac rumors forums for some reason. It was like, oh, it's snappier. So every time I hear you say that, I think about like the time Safari 3 got better. Okay. I have nothing to say to that. We cannot relate to that story, Stephen. Everyone here in the room is just staring at me like I'm speaking some other language. But we're all really pleased that you got to share your bliss for a moment. That's right. Go Safari 3. Yeah, go Safari 3. So Federico, what is left for Apple to do in the iOS 13 cycle? 13.1 brings some stuff back, or are there features that still won't appear even next week? Yeah. So there's actually quite a few things. The iOS release cycle has really become like a season pass at this point. I guess. So one of the big features that was announced at WWDC is called HomeKit Secure Video. That would be a new iCloud integration from Apple with HomeKit that when you have a HomeKit camera, instead of having to sign up for a third party subscription service for things like push notifications or cloud storage for your camera, you integrate the camera directly with Apple and directly with iCloud Drive and your iCloud Drive storage. So video is analyzed locally in your home using HomeKit hubs, which would be an Apple TV or an iPad or even a HomePod if the poor thing can actually do it. So the video will be encrypted locally on your network and sent to Apple for storage. And Apple is saying that you can either associate one HomeKit camera, but you've got to have a 200 gigabyte iCloud plan or up to five cameras. But you've got to have a two terabyte iCloud plan. And the system will be able to detect people, animals, which I'm really excited to try, vehicles. But all of this was promised as an iOS 13 feature. Now it's coming out later this year. So it's not iOS 13.1, which is coming out on Tuesday, but 13.2 or later. We have no idea. So that's one of them. We were promised HomePod and AirPlay 2 speaker support in home automations. That feature, no idea what happened. In theory, you should be able to, you should be able to. And I checked in on this feature multiple, multiple times. You should be able to have your HomePod do something, play some music or, you know, play some audio in response to a HomeKit scene. So use your AirPlay 2 speaker and the HomePod is one of them in HomeKit automation. My dream scenario here, and I think I told you guys about this months ago and you made fun of me unnecessarily. I want, I want to update my HomeKit security system so that if anybody tries to break in, three HomePods will go off at full volume, playing a very scary disco music sound. Why disco music? There's nothing scarier. It's gotta be techno music, like real, like hardcore techno music. Can you give us an example? Well, I cannot whistle that. Why not an alarm sound? Are you just like, you need it to go to the station? So I do have an alarm sound, but that is generic, right? I have a siren and it's very loud, but imagine. They might be expecting sirens, but they're not expecting aggressive disco. They're going to be terrified. You're not expecting techno at 2am, right? No one ever does. In addition to that, I want my, I want my HomePods and I hope that burglars are not following this live stream right now. You are telling everyone about your incredible scheme here. I want my HomePods to relay a message that they're calling the polizia. Can you give us that message, please? How does it sound? I don't know. Come on, give it. What would it say? I just want to hear it in Italian that you're calling the police. I wouldn't be able to understand anyway. It doesn't matter. I like to hear how it sounds. Stiamo chiamando i Carabinieri. See? Not very loud. The Carabinieri, oh my, you're calling the special police. It's the special police. What do you know about that, Mike? You've been to Italy twice. Yeah, there's multiple levels of police. I don't really understand it, but the Carabinieri, they seem more aggressive and scary because Carabinieri rhymes with scary. Sure. Yeah, and it's also written the same way, actually. Yeah, yeah. Ends with a Y. What's happening? This is exactly what you thought would happen. So HomeKit video is coming later. So HomeKit video and AirPlay 2 speakers in automation. I'm pretty sure there's something else that I'm missing. Some features just disappeared, like iCloud Drive folder collaboration. Yeah, that's a bummer. And file pinning. So basically Apple went back and forth this summer on switching to a new iCloud Drive format in files for iOS and iPadOS and in the Finder for Mac OS Carolina. And they did some horrible things to people's documents and they had to revert. For example, I have multiple instances of a folder, and maybe Steven can help me. It's called recovered files. Yeah, I have like two copies of that and it's a full archive of my iCloud Drive account. That sounds terrible. I have no idea why it's in there. So Apple reverted to an older iCloud Drive format because apparently they weren't able to ship the features in time. But in theory, you should be able to collaborate with iCloud Drive on a folder like you can with Dropbox, for example. Yeah, but everyone has to keep using Dropbox now, right? No one can rage quit it yet. Turns out that it was more than just a feature. It's a feature Apple can't ship. That's what it is. It's a feature, but you've got to build it. Yeah, features are great if you can make them. Poor iCloud. So I think that's pretty much the list of features that haven't shipped yet. In my review, I actually covered 13.1, even though it wasn't technically out. I was under the assumption that it would launch by the end of September because that's what Apple had said. But on publishing day, Apple said, no, it's coming out on Tuesday. So a week before. I think they probably realized that they need to maybe get out as quickly as possible. People that have the new phones and stuff, right? It's just like, if we can do this quicker, let's do it quicker. And maybe they've worked out that they can do that. Yeah, yeah. Which meant, but during the afternoon of the review, at that point, there were, I believe, 10,000 people reading the review. I needed to go in and fix page two because it said iOS 13.1 is coming out on September 30th and invalidated the cache of just that page. Oh boy. Because otherwise, yeah, it was a whole thing. But yeah, it's coming out on Tuesday and there's going to be automations in shortcuts, which I'm really excited to keep playing around with. I've been sticking NFC stickers all over my apartment. Sylvia hasn't noticed them as much. And of course, now that I'm saying this, she probably will. Oh yeah, she's watching, right? Usually you can just say what you want because she doesn't listen to Connected. Yeah, she doesn't care. Exactly. I mean, it's, you know, it's nerdy stuff. She's been on Connected though. Yeah. The one time. Well, she brought a coin for us to flip once. That was in like a B-side and I don't think she was on it. It was just more Federico like yelling. But anyway, yeah, now she knows. I'm sorry she had to find out. Hi Sylvia, I'm sorry you had to find out this way. So sorry. I'm very sorry as well. Please forgive me. Next up, Federico mows around his house and takes down all the stickers. Yeah, that's right. I got to take them off. Pretty much like you have done with your iPad, Mike. Yeah, both my iPads. We should talk about this. You still have some stickers on your MacBook Pro. I think maybe we take a couple off before we let Federico go. It's not as easy as you think to just remove them. It takes a lot. Do it close to the microphone. I want my... No, it's actually not really that easy. Unless Stephen wants to just take my microphone. You really... How strong are your hands? I'm really struggling. I worked my nails for this. You want to take them off? I'm going to help you with the pizza one here. It's really difficult. It is really difficult. See? There we go. I've been doing a lot of this final sticker. There's the pineapple pizza. It's gone. There goes one. Yeah, the pineapple pizza. Just remove that thing. It makes no sense. Yeah, no one needs pineapple on pizza. Any $250 donations meant that I removed a sticker from one of my devices. Stephen added one. This is my final device that has any stickers on it. And there's maybe like 10 more. So these will have to come off. And then both of my iPads completely clear now. And now my MacBook Pro. It's coming right off. It's going the same way. It's gone. So many stickers that are irreplaceable. I'm going to take this Pixar... I'm going to take the Pixar one off. That's a completely irreplaceable sticker. I'm so excited to see that one be removed. I bet someone can mail us Pixar stickers. Please somebody at Pixar send some stickers. What's the PO Box address? It's on Twitter. PO Box 24174 Memphis, Tennessee. Sure. There's a zip code too, but I don't know what it is. The zip code is... 5. There you go. Okay, this is... How many are you removing? It's terrible. They've all got to come off, man. There we go. There's loads and it takes a long time. And Stephen has ruined one. They're coming off anyways. Well, Federico, thank you for joining us. I think I hear the police in the background, so you better go hide. The Carabinieri. Oh, no. They're coming for you. I'm going to go see if I can get my phone back. I don't know how this is happening. Control room strikes again. That's right. But Federico, thank you for joining us, and we will talk to you next week on Connected. We love you, Federico. Thank you for doing this. Love you too. Thank you. Bye. Bye, buddy. All right, I have some updates about our facial hair. I'm going to go see if I can get my phone back. I'm going to go see if I can get my phone back. I'm going to go see if I can get my phone back. I'm going to go see if I can get my phone back. And after that by my wife Mary. You're going to talk with Mary about our story. Yes. But before that we're going to show you guys a quick video and get set up for this game. I got into Karate because I just wanted to see how you do it. Let's just say someone is trying to hurt me. I mean I know Karate and that's good. She just loves it and she practices. Zoe is a self motivator. She just has always been somebody who wants to get things done. Zoe was in kindergarten. We were at home. She had just woke up from a nap and I knew something was wrong. She had a seizure. We didn't know and the doctors didn't know at that point either that there was something more. They did a CT scan. They immediately found out there was a tumor on the pituitary gland called craniofringenoma. It was like someone ripped my heart out. That type of pain. My mom told me and I was like wow. They removed most of it. They couldn't get all of it. Three months later it began to grow again. They did not want to do another surgery. It would have been too risky. Zoe's neurosurgeon mentioned to us about coming to St. Jude. A week and a half later we were here. Getting out of that shuttle, it was truly a magical experience for us. Everybody is so wonderful. Everybody is so kind here. It was perfect for what our need was. St. Jude offers proton radiation where they pinpoint the exact location of the tumor and they are able to exactly shoot that area without it destroying other parts of her brain. My job is to help make sure they understand why they're here, prepare them for all that they do and help them adjust to the hospital environment. The first two days she was sedated back to back and it broke my heart. The whole day was gone. Grogginess coming out of sedation. The treatments, 30 treatments, it's about six weeks, Monday through Friday. We talked to child life specialist Amy. We were able to practice a few times ahead of time to do the radiation without sedation. Radiation treatment is very precise. It's important that you remain still the entire time. If they're able to do it awake, it minimizes the time that they have to spend in the hospital. Six and under are typically sedated. Zoe, she had impulse control of a teenager almost. She would sit still, whereas typical five year olds, it's like, squirrel. I think the discipline from the karate helped her. Kept telling her, you should be so proud of yourself. There's not many kids your age that are able to do this. Anytime you get to watch a child accomplish something they couldn't or overcome something, it's amazing to watch. I want life to be back to normal. I don't want this big tumor on my head. They were afraid that it might affect her eyesight, but we have been so blessed that it hasn't affected her eyesight. She will have to do growth hormone to start growing. All of her hormones are affected by the tumor. But she's alive. We are so grateful for St. Jude. We just want people to know that this place has to continue. It just has to continue for all the wonderful things that they do for our family and other families and all these children that are in need. She was never afraid. She never said, why me? She has been my angel. She's a blessing. I have a cross and some stars and a heart. It says, thank you, St. Jude from Zoe. I know she's going to do great things. I just want to give my heart out. It's always good to open your heart. I was one of the best players in my class. I was playing at the top level. I was on my way up. But my basketball dreams shattered. I was just out of it. Dark circles all around my eyes. I just looked bad and I really felt bad. My mom took me to my doctor. Then my mom is kind of worried, so she goes out and talks to my doctor while I'm laying down on the bed. And when I wake up, we're at the gates of St. Jude. I see blue sheets on my bed. Two people walk in with white coats. They said, you've been diagnosed with leukemia. My heart just kind of broke. I was like, okay, it's serious. I was groomed for basketball. That was me. It always came back to basketball. But the only question I asked was, how can I get better? What's the treatment? How long will it take? I met Hannah through St. Jude. We were both patients. She kind of introduced music to me on a different level from what I was doing. Somebody in the team room asked me, was I going to do anything for the team? Or so. Hannah just came in out of nowhere, like, he's going to rap. Oh yeah, and he's going to rap. And I never really did anything like that before with an original beat or anything like that. Everything I was feeling, how I felt, I just put all my emotions into that paper. So I couldn't keep it in. It was kind of like a coping mechanism for me. It was good for me to put it out there. She lit the flame to start. Help me do it. Hide all of my insecurities. There's not so much I want to, but I need you. Only peace for me. Hide me from the people, please. Hide me from myself, please. Just let me watch my TV. Hannah ended up losing her battle. And she ended up dying. It really was a rough time because she was a good friend. I definitely feel like she's over me, telling me that you have to finish the journey. And that's just the way that it goes. The greatest gift St. Jude has given me is new life. I was basically dying. And they stepped in and saved my life. I'm not the same person I was when I first went into this. I'm a better human being and individual because I went through St. Jude. It wasn't like a hospital. It was like a fun, loving community, a family. Be well. You look awesome. My family, music, and basketball are the most important things to me right now in my life. I was 14 when I got diagnosed, so it's kind of helped shape who I'm going to be for the rest of my life. I was 14 when I got diagnosed, so it's kind of helped shape who I'm going to be for the rest of my life. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ Ball pit central. Wait, wait, wait. Ball pit central? So, Stephen's now in the ball pit, which is a thing that he has going on in his life. This is where I live now. I've dropped my communication method to the control room. That's fine. So, I need to bend down and pick that up. Because I've found the control room to be very useful. It's true. I want one all the time. Yeah, that would be good. What are you guys doing every Wednesday at noon? You come help us with connectivity? I'm in the control room. They said no. Come on. Okay, we're going to bring in some wonderful Allsac volunteers. Now, we're going to help dump some balls on Stephen. Oh, boy. So, do you want to come in and do that? And I'll read some names. Sure. We have Brian from Woodridge, Virginia, along with some other people that are now all over the studio floor. Evan from Brenningsville, Pennsylvania. You threw that harder than you had to. No, it was fine. We have Micah from Petaluma, California. And remember, all of these balls signify $50 or more donations. That's really awesome. Which is absolutely fantastic. Oh, there's more. There's no warning. There's so many more. There's no warning when they come. That's the best way. Never get warned. All right, who is this? We have Marco from Georgetown in the Cayman Islands. All right. Sorry about that. Marcus from Switzerland. So, international. Many international donations. That's really awesome. Doug from Glosborough, New Jersey. That's not international to me. It is to you. All right, well, let me keep trying to find an international one. Oh, gosh. It's hard to see past the lights, and a ball just came streaming in from the sky. I can't seem to find any. Oh, wait, here you go. Minko from the Netherlands. All right. Oh, I got that one. This is Linda from Frisco, Texas. Not international. Stephen, why don't you just reach in. And just find some? Grab one of the colored balls and read it out. Here is Khan from Omaha, Mississippi. Okay. Frank from LA. Let's see who else we got here. Stephen from Germantown, Tennessee. Not you. Not me. But very could be you. We have another Stephen here from Wisconsin. Spelled with a V, though. The one that I just read from Germantown, Tennessee was a PH. That's the right way to do it. I have somebody else from Switzerland. They love us in Switzerland. This is Michael. Thank you to Michael from Switzerland. Thank you, Switzerland. David from Medfield, Massachusetts. Got a red ball here. If you want to get your name on a ball and have the opportunity to have your name potentially read out from a colored ball on the screen. Or just thrown at me. Or thrown at Stephen, just go to stjude.org. It's like you may not get your name written out, but you know that one of them could land on his head, and how great is that? It's true. At some point, I will be in the ball pit. Yes. Jeremy from Melbourne. I wonder if that's Jeremy Burge. Who knows? He's from everywhere. But he lives on a boat now. Jeremy from boat? What are you going to do? Jason from Baltimore, Maryland. All right. That's the Y, right? Sure. Yep. And we have Mark from Navarre, Florida. Navarre. N-A-V-A-R-R-E. You look at me as if I know. I do not know. Once you dump those on me, we'll play our game. Right on the face. Thank you. All right. So we have a game to play. So Stephen wanted to play a game. I have to get out of here now. Yeah. Well, we have the sanctions. That's true. This is actually very difficult. I'm going to give you this. Yep. Oh, you're still wired in. Don't forget you're wired in. This is very tense. Very graceful. We are over $202,000 now. Wow. Sanju.org. So we're going to play a video game called Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes. So there's some stuff that you're going to need to know about this video game. So it is, in essence, a bomb defusal game. And the way it works is I see a video game screen, and you will see it too, I believe. That's what we're going to be doing. So everyone should be able to see it shortly. So I'm going to be loading up the game. So control room, you can feel free to switch to my screen whenever you want. So this game is called Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes. And basically the way it works is I will see a bomb that Stephen will need to help me defuse. But Stephen doesn't get to see the defusal. He doesn't get to see anything that I get to see. And I have to describe everything to him. Stephen has a bomb defusal manual that he will be using. I had it bound because this is a fancy event. This is 23 pages long. And most of the pages are just drawings and words that I don't understand because I have not looked at this game. So we're going to try this together, and we are going to fail the first time. It's going to be great. Or it could be like Oregon Trail and we win the first time. Yeah, we'll see. See if we have my winning streak again. So we're going to be playing Section 1.3, the first bomb. So we've already reviewed the tutorials. So description. Everybody has to start somewhere. Let's hope it doesn't end here too. Make sure your experts have the manual and are ready to help. I don't know about expert, but I have the manual. This is we have a five-minute timer, three modules, three strikes. Okay. So I guess we'll start, and I'll just start describing to you what I can see. And I have to find the module you're looking at, I guess. I guess so. All right. Let's try it. All right. It's loading. Is this better than the Family Feud software? Yeah, it's like a real game. That's good. It's not made in Adobe Air. It's like you can get it on Steam. You can also get this game in VR. All right. So I have a bomb in front of me. Okay. So I have three sections. I have one detonate button, which is yellow. I have a section which has three wires on it, a black wire, a yellow wire, and a blue wire. Okay. And then I have a section that has four buttons with a bunch of symbols on. Okay. Let me see. So there's like I can describe the symbols to you. Let's start with the – so you said three wires? There's three wires. So it's like one, two, three, ABC down the sides? There's no ABC down the side. It's just – and there's no numbers. There's just three wires. There's a black wire, a yellow wire, and a blue wire. I'm trying to read and see what module you're on. It would be helpful if it told you what module. But I think this is the point, isn't it? This is already very frustrating. So I have three modules. I don't know if I'm supposed to do them in a specific order. Okay. Here we go. All right. Just see if this sounds like what you see. Okay. A wire module can have three to six wires on it. So you have three. I have three wires. And can you – I'm going to get a pen. Can you tell me the colors? Black, yellow, blue in that order top to bottom. Black, yellow, blue. We have three minutes and 52 seconds. If there are no red wires, cut the second wire. Okay. I got the green light. I did it. I got a green light. The last wire is not white. No. We only have one blue wire, right? One blue wire, and it's the last wire. All right. Cut the blue wire. Uh-uh. Strike one. Oh, no. Otherwise there's more than one. Oh, otherwise cut the last wire. Okay. So cut the – Well, there's only one wire left now. So cut the other one. Got another strike. So that's two strikes. We have one strike left before this bomb explodes, but we have at least, I guess, cleared this first thing because there's no – Oh, and the light turned green. So I guess maybe that's all we have to do for that module. The light did turn green. I don't know if that's what that means. We're just going to move on to the next module. Maybe we've learned something. All right. Symbols. Symbols. Only one column below has all four symbols from the keypad. What? Press the four buttons in the order their symbols appear from top to bottom. Okay. So I guess you have to start – Okay. So do you have – I'm going to ask you a question. Do you have the copyright symbol? No. Do you have – Can I just tell you what I have? Sure. Can you describe them? All right. So the first one, so from left to right, top to bottom, right? Number one is like – It looks like the letter A, but there's no part in the middle. That's like above it, and there's two squiggly ends on the right-hand side that goes down from the letter A. Got it. Okay. Then there is like a squiggly line. Tick-tock. Name the easiest ones you can describe first. All right. The third one is another letter A with the letter T inside of it. Got it. The fourth one is a letter C backwards with a full stop in the middle. Got it. And then the last one is like – It's like a snake, but like facing diagonally, but the snake has a triangular part in the middle. What? A snake? I don't know. I genuinely have no idea how to describe this. Oh, with a triangle in the middle. I got it. Okay. So you've described all four. Yeah. We have one minute. Press the four buttons in the order their symbols appear from top to bottom within that only one column below has all four – We have less than a minute. So you have to push these in the right order? I don't know. You tell me. You've got the instructions. I don't know if I'm reading them correctly. All right. So press the A with the T inside of it. Yep. Snake with a triangle. One blew up. Oh, no. We didn't have the right one there. Snake with a triangle was not – Okay. So we need to try that again. We failed on the – That did not go well. This was the tutorial level that we just failed on. Oh, no. So we have 38 seconds. Is there like a pre-tutorial? That was literally just the instructions. We can't play the instructions for half an hour. I'm sorry to tell you. We may be better at it. So we're going to try this again. I assume it changes what we have. I hope so. The symbols. Five minutes on the clock. Okay. Starting now. All right. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So I have the four symbols thing. I have wires, but there's six wires this time and another yellow detonate button. All right. Let's do the wires. I feel like we did well at that last time. Is there an order, though, that we have to do these in? What's the – I don't know. You have the instructions. Instructions for disarming modules can be found in section one, if no strike indicator is present, the countdown timer... You can disarm all the modules before the countdown. So I don't think we have to do any orders. Let's do the wires. As we understood that there are six wires... Yep Give me the colors... Red blue white red blue yellow. Red blue white red blue yellow Yes I'm going to read these out loud and you try to process them with me. Why? Please. If there are no yellow wires... Oh wait, we have a yellow wire, so that's not that. Otherwise, if there's exactly one yellow wire and there is more than one white wire, there's only one white wire, so that's not the step. If there are no red, white... not that step. Otherwise, cut the fourth wire. So you want me to cut wire four now? Yes. Okay, it went green. Okay, so what was the next one other than the symbols? Let's not do that one yet. The yellow detonate button. Yeah, I think the problem was last time we kept cutting wires. Yeah. We shouldn't have done that. The subject of the assignment says. We have three minutes left. Three minutes and thirty seconds left. I don't know what the yellow button looks like. There's just a button that says detonate and it's yellow. It's a gas gas. Maybe we should leave that to last because all I can do is flip it open and press the detonate button. Oh, okay, so we need symbols. Yeah. So tell me the symbols you have. Okay, so I have a... This is not in order. My heart is racing. I have an O with a line at the bottom, sticking out the bottom. Okay. I have a really fancy looking H with a little squiggly at the end of it. Just like a really fancy looking letter H. And then it has like a tiny letter J hanging off the bottom. Got it. I have kind of something that looks like a spaceship that's docked to like a command tower. It's like a triangle and it has like three legs coming off the bottom of it. And there's a line that comes out of the middle of the triangle. Okay. And then another straight line next to it. Got it. And then I have this snake with the... So these are all in the same column. So only one column below has all four symbols. We have that column. Press the four buttons in the order their symbols appear. Okay, so you want to press... No, but I haven't explained the fourth one to you. What's the fourth one? It's the one that we struggled with last time. It's like a snake with a triangle in the middle, but that wasn't it. I think I read them out of order last time. I think I understand what we did wrong. So you want to do the O with the stick coming down. Yep. The snake that ate the triangle. Yep. Spaceship port thing. Yep. Fancy H. Yes, we did it. Okay. I don't know what we do now. I guess we have to press the detonate button. Push it. Hey! We did it. We completed the tutorial. This is very stressful. I think we learned some valuable things that we didn't know last time. Like how the symbols work. Yeah. Our result, diffused. Time remaining, two minutes and one second. Best time. Wow. All right, you want to do another one? Mm-hmm. All right, one more. Okay, so this one is called... We're still in the category called the basics. That's fine with me. It's called Something Old, Something New. When did seeing a familiar bomb become comforting? No matter, this bomb will only be half comforting. Five minutes, three modules, three strikes. Okay. Ready? I'm ready. It's a fun game, right? It is fun. This is a good fun. So you can play this in VR, which I would very much like to do. Oh, like cut the wires and stuff? Yeah. That would be awesome. But then the good thing about the VR is definitely no one can see the screen. And also, this also can be played in parties. You can have a bunch of people. All right, we've got five minutes. The bomb is here. We're just talking now. We have four wires. Okay. Yellow, black, blue, black. Hang on, hang on. Sorry. Yellow. Black. Blue. Black. All right, let's do that one first because we've got the wires down. All right. So we have four wires. If there is more than one red wire, there's zero red wires. If the last wire is yellow, it is not. If there is exactly one blue wire, cut the first wire. Wait. So I cut the yellow wire, right? Yeah, cut the first wire. Correct. Okay. What's next? I have a keypad which has four numbers, two, three, one, four, and a little screen that has the number two in it. Got it. So what's the layout of the buttons? There's four. Two, three, one, four. Two, three. One. Four. From left to right. It's just four buttons left to right. All right. Stage one. If the display is two, press the button in the second position. Okay. If the display is three, which it is, press the button in the first position. No, the display is now four. The display is four. Okay. If the display is four, press the button in the same position you pressed in stage one, which was the second position. Yep. What's it now? The display is now two. If the display is two, press the button with the same label you pressed in stage one. I don't remember what that was. It would have been three. So hit the three. Yeah. Please should write that down. Stage four. All right. What does it say now? Number four. If it is four, press the button in the same position you pressed in stage two, which is the second position. Yep. We have one more to go. I'm pleased you're writing this down. Number two. If the display is two, press the button with the same label you pressed in stage two, which is up here in the first position. Press number two. Nope. Got that wrong. Okay. The display is now three. So basically, press the button with the same label you pressed in stage four. What was stage four? That's the only one I didn't write down. Three. Wrong. No. We have one more strike. The display says four. Press the button with the same label you pressed in stage three. And what was stage three? Press the button with the same label you pressed in stage one, which would have, with a button would have said three at that point. So you want me to press the number three? How much time do we have? Two minutes. All right. Let's think through this. I think it actually reset and we have to do five again. So actually we should start again. The display says one, four, two, three. I think it's reset this display. No, it said two, three, one, four. No, I think it's reset the display because there was a marker, six little markers going up the side, which I think was the indication. Okay, so we're going to start from scratch. Start from scratch with one, four, two, three. One, four, two, three. We have one minute and 20 seconds. What is the display? Four. Display is four. Press the button in the fourth position. Yes. What is it now? Three. If the display is three, press the button in the first position. Correct. What is it now? Three. If the display is three, press the button in the third position. Correct. What is it now? Three. There's a delay. I was like, what are you telling me? It's three. If the display is three, press the same button you pressed in stage two, which was the first position. We have 30 seconds to go. We have one more to go and it's one. If the display is one, press the button with the same label you pressed in stage one. That said number four, so press number four. Oh no! I felt so confident. You were like, just so on that one. Oh man. Want to try again? Let's do one more. Okay. We're going to retry this. What are we at? Two ahead and one? No, we failed twice and only one won. Let's do one more. That is genuinely stressful. He was so confident. I felt so sure of myself. That'll teach me. Okay, five minutes on the clock. We have something new. We have like a Simon Says. Okay, hang on, let me find that. And we have six wires and a hold, a button that says hold on it. That's different. Simon Says. Okay. I'm going to read you this. On the four colored, one of the four colored buttons will flash. Yellow. Using the correct table below, press the button with the corresponding color. The original button will flash followed by another. Repeat this sequence in order using the color mapping. What is the color mapping? I don't know. The sequence will lengthen by one. So we have to repeat what it does every time. Okay. So I need to have my pen ready. Right, so it says yellow. Okay. So the button is yellow. Yeah, and it's flashing. The yellow button is flashing. So flash yellow. Yeah. Oh, is there a serial number somewhere? No. It says if the serial number contains a vowel, it tells us what to do. There's no serial number. How is there no serial number? Oh, SND. Maybe. That's it? I think I just found a whole new thing I didn't know existed. SND. Okay, so there's no vowel in that. So it's flashing yellow. I will say, press red. Yeah. What is it doing now? Yellow, blue. Yellow, blue. Press red, yellow, blue. Three minutes and 30 seconds. The original button will flash followed by another. Repeat the sequence in order using the color mapping. Yellow, blue. Yellow flash. Blue flash. I don't know if this is what we're supposed to do, but try yellow. Yellow. Wrong. Not that. One strike. Using the correct table below, press the buttons with the corresponding color. The original button will flash followed by another. Repeat the sequence in order using the color mapping. Yellow, blue. We didn't press yellow the first time. We pressed red, right? So is it like red and then whatever the second strike is for blue or something? It's flashing blue now. It's yellow, blue. Yellow, blue. So try pressing red and then blue. Wrong. I don't understand how this works. Clearly, because we have two minutes and 30 seconds left. We haven't done anything. Can we just set the bomb off now? Put ourselves out of our misery? Right. Come on. You can do this. Yellow, blue. It's flashing yellow and then blue. I believe in you. The original button will flash followed by another. Repeat this sequence in order using the color mapping. So what we just tried was pushing the solution for the first one with the solution of the second one. That didn't work. Yellow, blue. Two minutes to go. So do we push? I don't know. I'm thinking out loud, but the instructions don't make any sense. Okay. The, uh. Yellow, blue. Do we try pushing the color that it was originally? That's what we did, red. No, that's what we pressed. Originally it was yellow. Do we try like. We have one minute. Just tell me what to do. We have one minute. Green, blue. Oh no. That wasn't green. That was mostly a guess. Well, thanks Simon. Went well, didn't it? So we're now three and one. Three and one. One and three. We've won one. Three exploded. One. Let's not quit our day jobs and move into the bomb disposal business. After the first one goes wrong, you're out of the business. Really. Are we moving on now from this game? I say we do one final one and then we have Mary. Okay. Sounds great. We're going to retry this one. Three modules, three strikes. Okay. And then we'll have somebody find Mary. Okay. Five minutes on the clock. We have a Simon Says module. No. We have a wires module. Okay. And we have a four button symbol module. Let's do the four buttons again. Okay. So I have an upside down question mark. Oh. What? Hang on. You said the buttons. Wait, what are you talking about? The four buttons with the symbols on them. Oh, right. Sorry. I was thinking about the memory one that we did earlier. All right. We have four and a half minutes to go. Question mark upside down. Got it. I have a number six with a weird kind of like top part. It's like it goes flat. Got it. Here. I have a letter B that has a letter T contained within it on the long stalk. stalk, and I have a letter X with a letter I in the middle. Got it. Funny 6. Yep. The B and T together. Yep. The X with an I. Yep. Upside down question mark. Done it. Got it. Module complete. Okay. Let's skip simon says. What's the next one? Wires. I have six wires. Black, white, white, yellow, red, black. Black. White, white, yellow, red, black. Yep. That is six wires. Yep. If there are no yellow wires, not that. If there's exactly one yellow wire and there's more than one white wire, that is, cut the fourth wire. Wrong. If there's exactly one yellow wire and there's more than one white wire. Well, I caught the wrong one. Mike. Hooray, we finished that one with only one strike. Oh my gosh. We now have a Simon Says module. With one strike against us. With one strike against us. Our old friend Simon. What has he got to say? Let's find out. Nothing good. All right, hit me. What is it doing? Splashing green. And we have one strike. Mm-hmm. What is the serial number? Oh yeah, sorry. It's harder than you would think to try and find the serial number. SND. Again? Yeah. Are you sure that's the serial number? That's the same as it was last time. No, it's not serial number. Serial number is AV. This might be another issue. 2RK8. That was definitely the issue last time. Yeah, but it turns out I didn't, I've never seen the serial number before. If the serial number contains a vowel, it does. It is flashing green. We have one strike. Press blue. Correct. So it was green. Green. Yellow. Press blue. Is it now green yellow? Yeah, green yellow. There's a vowel. So flashing green, one strike. Do blue and then red. Correct. Oh, okay. Now what is it doing? Green yellow yellow. Green yellow yellow. Yeah, sorry. Still just one strike. Yep. Green yellow yellow. Blue red red. Yep. Yes. This was totally my fault last time. That was your fault. Now what? Green yellow yellow blue. Green yellow yellow blue. Blue. What did you say? Sorry. Green yellow yellow blue. Can't read Moon writing. Yellow. Blue red red green. Yes! We did it! 12 seconds to go. We defused the bomb. All right. That's two down, three exploded. That feels like a pretty good place to end it. Yeah. That was good. We might come back to it later on. I think we should maybe come back to that. I mean, I don't want to say it was fun, but it was entertaining. It was stressful. I hope that people enjoyed it. I wasn't able to see the chat during that period of time. So control room, if we can move away from my screen. Yeah, we're gonna be joined by my wife in a little while. What are we doing right now? Are we taking a video break? We're taking a video break. Okay, great. So we're gonna go to a quick video. Do we want to see where we are fundraising wise? What is our total right now? Is someone able to tell me what our total is right now? With standing by. Oh, I think we're $204,433. That is unbelievable. Stdew.org slash relay. What are we getting to? What is it for the bid? $220,000. And Stephen's going to a biker mustache and I'm gonna have googly eyes put on my face. Sounds like fun, right? You want to see that? I want to see it. So we're gonna be taking a quick video break. We're gonna be watching up one of these wonderful videos that St. Jude have put together for us. And then we're gonna be joined by Stephen's wife, Mary, and we're gonna be talking a little bit about their story. This is running. Obviously, there's pain. But I'm used to pain now I can do pain. And I can keep going. My journey has been a long and hard one. Mostly because I had brain cancer. No matter what is given to you, good or bad, you have a choice to live and to fight. And that pretty much holds true for everything in life. I had to go through two surgeries, 30 rounds of radiation, seven rounds of chemo, and I literally lost almost every muscle in my body. Like I couldn't even wiggle my toes. It was like some of the worst pain I've ever felt. We tried to find the best place possible in that best place of St. Jude. It's paid off and I'm alive. Cancer is stable right now. I'm getting stronger and I'm starting to become more like a normal human. So I'm running the St. Jude half marathon as a St. Jude hero. I know it's gonna be very difficult and very hard. But I'd like to think I'm used to that rugged terrain now. So if I can't run it, I'm gonna walk it. If I can't walk it, I'm gonna crawl it. It's gonna get done no matter what. St. Jude to me means, I mean it's made possible that I can do this half marathon. Anything I do, breathing, brushing my teeth. Just the fact that I'm alive is because of St. Jude. The donors, what they're giving is going directly to saving somebody's life. And for me, life means a second chance. It means extra time that I shouldn't have, so I could never think them enough. I may be in a wheelchair. I may only be able to walk on crutches or a walker, but that doesn't stop me from doing what I want to do. So at two years old, I was diagnosed with a rare spinal cord tumor. I did chemotherapy and had many surgeries, rounds of radiation, but I've been in remission close to 10 years now, and I am a cancer survivor from St. Jude. So one more day. My parents basically exposed me to all these different sports, and they wanted me to test my hand in announcing. And it just has grown on me from a young age, and now I don't let physical limitations even cross my mind at any point in time. I'm just hoping to be sitting in a broadcast booth somewhere, hopefully. That's my goal. So for me, life's moments, every moment counts. So you gotta seize the moment. Your story is inspiring to all of us. We want you to enjoy every moment of what goes on in there tonight. Oh, it's exhilarating. How do you think Austin's feeling? Shady. You think he is? He's your baby. Aw. Madison. Tonight, to announce Denver's pick is Austin, who is a St. Jude patient. With the fifth pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Bradley Chubb, defensive end, MC State. It's truly an awesome feeling for me. And it means everything. Wow. Yeah, oh man. That was great. Welcome back. So I'm joined by the wonderful Mary Hackett. Hi. So stjude.org.relay is where you should be going to donate, and we're going to be talking to Mary a little bit now about the way that the Hacketts have had St. Jude in their life. I think a lot of our listeners will have heard Stephen's story at some point. If they've been listening for long enough, they've heard Stephen's story, which is Josiah's story, which is your story as well. But I wanted to hear it from you instead, because everyone has listened to Stephen for too long. So I would like to talk a little bit about Josiah and what St. Jude means to you as a mother of somebody who has had to spend time here. So could you give us a little bit of background into Josiah's battle with cancer from your perspective? Sure, I would love to. I need to preface that by saying that every time we've reached a thousand dollar donation, I've been screaming. And so I don't have a lot of voice left because of Relay FM listeners right now. It's your own fault, really. Amazing. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks a lot for this. Thank you, listeners. Yeah, I would love to share a little bit about our story. You guys probably already know Josiah was a wee baby. He was our first, he is our first born, and he was only six months old when he was diagnosed as new parents. We didn't really know what we were doing, period, just in raising a normal child. And then finding out that your child has a chronic disease and may or may not be long for this world is devastating. It was shocking. And you, I think most people who have experienced a traumatic situation, that you don't realize what you're feeling when it's happening, when you're feeling it for the first time, because it is all so unorthodox and you have no frame of reference for it, for the feelings that come and they, it's inexplicable, really. So obviously we were in shock. We were surprised. And over a very quick weekend, Mother's Day weekend, 2009, we went from a well baby checkup to, well, let's just get an ultrasound to, we won't make you go in an ambulance, but you do need to go straight to the children's hospital. Don't stop to get lunch. Don't stop to pack a bag. So we did that. And then within 24 hours of his first MRI, we were told it was most likely cancerous, the mass that they had seen in the ultrasound, and that we would be St. Jude patients within that week. And, well, I can talk more about that. Did you, how much did you know about St. Jude before you needed to go there? So ironically, well, Steve and I are both from the Memphis area. And I remember like every time you cross the river, the Enbridge, the Memphis bridge to go to Arkansas, you pass right by the hospital, you pass right by St. Jude and there's this giant golden dome. And I didn't even know that that was St. Jude. It was like, oh, it's that really pretty building downtown. I obviously didn't get out much in high school, I guess. So driven past it dozens of times. And then some of our family members were regular blood donors because St. Jude is one of the few hospitals in the area that had their own blood donation center because if you have to go and purchase blood, it costs a lot of money. So if you can do that in-house, you save a lot of, a lot of expenses. So anyway, some of the family members had said, I've been donating blood for a long time at another location, Memphis location. And after I learned that St. Jude did that for themselves, I thought, well, I'll go ahead and do that. So Josiah was four months old, two months before we were diagnosed, four months old. And my grandmother watched him and I came to donate blood. I never hadn't even taken a tour. I just knew that St. Jude was a good place and they helped lots of kids and why not? So I got to give blood. And then, I mean, it was almost exactly two months later, we're in here having a tour as a new family. And it was, it was overwhelming. What is the process like in becoming a St. Jude family? Like you said, like as a tour, it almost feels like to me, it's like an induction or something that happens. Like, what is it like? Because I'm assuming this is a time when your brain is unable to take in information. Like how did they help you understand what's happening to you? Thankfully, they didn't try to sit us down at a table and lead us through binders and binders of information. Because as you said, that would never have sunk in. It was as we needed to know, obviously start with the most important, like this is your team. These are your doctors. This is the numbers. These are the numbers you need to have on speed dial in your phone, come to the emergency room for this. And it's a whole different set of parameters from the reasons that you would take a child who is not diagnosed, that didn't have the same diagnosis to the emergency room. So it was a big learning curve. But the actual process of becoming a St. Jude patient was remarkably easy. I remember we got the, she still works here because I heard somebody else say her name that she was their first contact as well. We had the name Tabitha Doyle given to us and I had her number. And so we're still inpatient. Josiah is recovering from his first partial tumor resection and also having a port placed that connects his heart to, I mean, like an out port catheter. So that's the way I can describe it, I guess. But it was a surgical procedure. So he's recovering and I'm just sitting in the room with nothing to do except for think about what my next week is going to look like compared to what I thought it was going to be like. That's really as far ahead as I could think. I couldn't really think about the next months or the next years. It was just really like, let's see about the next days, maybe a week at a time. So while I was sitting there and thinking and watching Josiah rest and recover, I had this lady's number. And so I called her and just said, Hey, we're new St. Jude patients. We don't have a number. We're coming for a tour tomorrow. Our son's still in the hospital across the street in Memphis. And I just wanted to know your fax number so that I could send you his scans and his this and his that and get all the papers in order. And I'll, sorry, I knew I was going to cry. I just remember saying, Oh, we got it all. It's fine. You're in the system. You just show up and you just text me when you get there. And like if anybody's ever been to a hospital, you know, it doesn't work that way. Never works that way. It's never simple. And it's never just, it's never just taken care of. Like never, never. Even if you have a wonderful hospital where you live and where you take your, your children to get their medical care, they never just say, Oh, it's fine. We got it. You have to make copies of insurance cards and prove that you should be there, prove that you've seen other doctors. And, and they just took us in immediately. How long from that period was Josiah kind of considered a St. Jude patient? Like, is it like, cause I know his status while still a St. Jude patient is very different now because he is in a stable condition and has been for a while. So how long were you here? Cause one of the differences, I'm talking to Enrique earlier, you lived here, so you didn't need to live in St. Jude housing. So you weren't in maybe as embedded as he were, even though you were probably here every day. But how long did that period of time last for? That's a great question. So we are a local family. There are a small number of us, but we do exist and it's a, it's a blessing to be able to not have to uproot your family support system. Like our, our parents were still around. Our aunts and uncles are still around and cousins and, um, to help us get through this time and just literally physically sit next to us in waiting rooms. And a lot of families here don't have that luxury. Um, we didn't have to move into a new apartment. We, we could go home, we could still have our cat to love on. We didn't have to, um, do a lot of the uprooting that most families have to do in order to, um, help give their child a chance to survive. But, um, um, that question reminds me of, again, that first day with Tabitha, as we were taking a tour through, um, and just kind of getting a feel for the hospital while Josiah was still recovering from that first surgery. Um, I remember she said the phrase, um, once you're once a St. Jude patient, always a St. Jude patient. And that phrase is, uh, the meaning has changed a lot for me. When she said it that day in May 2009, I was pretty angry. Like I was like, I, that's not what I want. Cause it feels like you were condemning me to a life of being. Yeah. Like, well, here, this is what you are. This is what your kid is now. He, he is a cancer kid and welcome. Like what? No, that was not, that was not the plan. Um, but now after having built a relationship with our hospital, which again is not something that most people can say. That's not a phrase people get to use in their lives. We have a good relationship with the hospital, but nobody has that. Exactly. Yeah. Um, now I understand what she meant and she meant it and an encouraged as it as an encouragement to us that he will always be cared for. He will always have people here at St. Jude who, um, know him medically and, um, it will never be a case of, well, yeah, let me find where that file went. I don't have record that he had that done. No, it is all there now over 10 years worth of medical history. Um, they, they know him, parts of him better than we, his parents do. Um, once a St. Jude patient, always a St. Jude patient. Um, we are no longer on active treatment, um, which is the difference. Um, Josiah was on active treatment, meaning he was receiving chemotherapy. Um, there are other treatments, but for Josiah specific specifically, um, he just went through chemotherapy and surgery. Um, we did that for 16 rounds and the rounds were every 21 to 28 days. So I think it ended up being right at 13 months. Um, so on 13, for 13 months he was on active treatment. Um, we were at the hospital at least four days a week, more like five. Um, some of those would be on the weekend because inevitably his counts would be low. He had no immune system, um, to speak of and, and he would spike a fever, which meant if you get a fever, you go to the St. Jude version of the ER because you've got to make sure that it's something that we can figure out how to fight it or have him close to medical experts in case, um, we need to do something quickly. That is a great picture. Can you explain what's happening in this picture? Cause he's got a very special balloon. Yeah. If you can't read the balloon, it says no mo chemo. And that was his no mo chemo party. That was when he received his 16th round and he's got his little Hawaiian shirt on. It's a great shirt. I would wear that shirt. It's a great shirt. Oh, it's great to be able to address a kid and then have no say in it. Man. Yep. Love that shirt. Um, so yeah, every child gets a no mo chemo party. Um, if you receive radiation, there's an equivalent. I can't remember the clever name for it. Um, since we didn't have to, um, do that bit, but yeah, that was an exciting day. They came in through confetti at him. It surprised him and he started crying right after. I've had that happen to me. It's not good. It's shocking. Yes. I, uh, I'm, I'm always, you know, Josiah is so special and he's been through so much and I'm always taken aback by how kind he is and how he always thinks of other people. And I, it just doesn't feel like he should have to, he should get a pass on that. The boy's been through so much. He shouldn't have to think about people the way that he does, but he does. He cares and it's unbelievable, you know, and he's very special. Thank you for realizing that. I wholeheartedly agree. He, um, he is, I don't know because he was diagnosed so young. Stephen and I have talked about this. I don't know if he just would have been this way anyway. Um, you know, just, he just has a very loving and forgiving and compassionate personality. Um, or if it's because of what he went through at such an early age, if that makes sense. You know, you, if you're six, seven, eight months old and you're constantly meeting new people and you know, constantly having this medicine, you know, shoved at you and getting shots and poked and prodded and, um, he's, he, he loves meeting new people. He doesn't really know any strangers. How are you, um, how are you involved with St. Jude today? Um, I have the great privilege to be a pair mentor, which is, um, parents, um, I guess veteran parent experienced, I don't know, um, parents who've been here, um, for a while and have, have, um, I don't know that there's like a minimum requirement. I know that it has, you know, John has to have been off treatment for a little while for you to, you to have time to heal and grasp what your family has gone through and, um, and honestly do a lot of like grieving and re reacclimating to normal life post treatment and going home. But, um, yeah, it's, um, parents who have been through the part of active treatment with their children already, um, being paired up with parents who are just getting here with their children who've just received diagnosis. Um, I've, I've been with some families who were diagnosed months ago, but they just got to St. Jude. Um, and those, some of those stories just make me cringe. Like I just wish, I wish you could have had our experience to just like go straight across the street to the St. Jude. For as much as it could, you could possibly have any blessing during that period of time that was yours. For sure. Right. That you were able to be there and you didn't have to get on a plane and you didn't have to spend days fretting about getting here or like what Enrico was saying. Yeah. They just got in a car and just started driving. Right. But like you were lucky if any, if that word could ever be twisted to be lucky in that period of time to be here. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, hindsight is 2020, you know, you don't, you don't realize, and I remember people, um, saying to, as you know, all the Southern, I don't know if you've heard it while you were here in the South, but like the Southern, like, bless your heart. Like, I don't know how you're doing this. I don't know how you do it. And you're like, well, if I know, I don't know either. Like we just, you do it because you, what else would you do? Would you say, I'm going to pass? Like, let's see what happens. Like, um, no, you, you do what you have to do. It's in signing those papers to allow the life giving and life saving, um, treatment is still a hard decision because there are a lot of scary side effects and, um, a lot of unknowns that come with it. Um, and it's, but when you're looking back, um, you have that space in your head and in your body just to sit still for a minute and, and remember like, what did it feel like when we were first diagnosed? And then, and then to be paired with like a new family and you see the same face, to see the same, um, the same look in a parent's eyes and to know what that, what that look means for them. Um, that like you're saying, it's a twisted, um, and not a twisted view, an unexpected, I guess, an unexpected, um, positive or coming through this with Josiah is being able to, um, feel compassion and a completely new level because you know what it feels like and you know, the fears that are there behind, behind that parent's eyes and, um, you know, the dreams that they've had and nightmares. And, uh, I think Enrique shared a little bit about that is that the community between St. Jude families is like no other, um, because it's such a unique environment that we're essentially raising our children in because when you're here for most treatment, I mean for us it was over a year for leukemia, I believe it's about two years. Um, that's a long time to have your child out of their regular routine, their regular, um, um, you know, their school settings, their growing up with siblings. And, um, so you're in this micro cause of my guess and raising your children with other families who, um, they don't have the same experience because each child is different and each journey and treatment, um, differ depending on, um, what that specific child needs. But, um, but the feelings are the same and I'm eternally grateful to be able to share, um, anything that I've learned, anything to help, um, a parent who is a little bit earlier in their journey than we are. Cause I would have given anything to have had that as a new mom to a child with, with cancer. Um, but the program didn't exist and, um, I am just, that's another really cool thing about being here at St. Jude for so long and being a local family and being a part of the parent mentor program as I, um, have a great, I feel like I have a bird's eye view of all the programs that St. Jude has, um, had when we started in 2009 and then now in 2019, like I feel like I can't keep up with it. I'm constantly, um, you know, checking email and, um, for, for work for parent mentor program and finding that there's, you know, now you can, they can get somebody to go get their dry cleaning. Now there's somebody on campus who's giving massages. Now there's, you get your own bathroom and your own shower. You don't have to share with the other parents on the floor when you're inpatient and like all these things that were like, uh, pipe dreams. Now, um, through people like you and, um, through St. Jude being so family, uh, having such family centered care, um, they ask us, they ask, well, what, what would you have changed? What would have been helpful? And then it just magically happens. Like 10 years later, there's a parent mentor program. There's, you can get a massage, you can, you know, while you're waiting for your child's appointment to finish up. And, um, those small things, small things mean a lot when you are, uh, in completely out of control and in your, of what's happening in your family and, uh, what's happening for your child's health. Small things like that go a long way for parents. Thank you, Mary. Thank you. Now, if you don't want to give money now, uh, what's wrong with you? Stjude.org slash relay. Look, every single year between 180,000 and 240,000 children are diagnosed with cancer worldwide and St. Jude will not stop until no child dies from cancer. So go to Stjude.org slash relay to join the fight to end childhood cancer. Stjude.org slash relay. Please go there and donate now. Uh, we're going to play a quick video about St. Jude's proton therapy beam and then we'll be right back. Thanks. 36 months of construction, 1.5 million man hours invested, sub millimeter accuracy, pushing the boundaries of innovation, technology, and particle physics to find cures and save children. The new St. Jude Red Frog events proton therapy center. One of the things we've done here at St. Jude is we've pushed the envelope on photon radiation therapy. We've been leaders in radiation oncology. Proton therapy represents the logical next step. We've known for a long time that children who are treated with therapy directed at their central nervous system. So children treated for brain tumors or for leukemia, that they're at great risk for cognitive problems after their treatment. And these problems can really impact their quality of life. Things like their academic achievement, their ability to hold a job, to live independently. We now know that this risk increases with higher radiation doses as well as greater regions of the brain receiving radiation therapy. In conventional radiation therapy, the tumor is targeted with x-rays that pass through the body, affecting all healthy tissue in the path of the beam. With proton therapy, a narrow beam of protons stops within the tumor, reducing the amount of damage to healthy surrounding tissue. There was no question here we were going to do this someday. We just had to wait for the right technology. Now we're painting spots of radiation using pencil beam scanning methods where we paint the dose in layer by layer, spot by spot. Obviously that was the generation of proton beam that we needed. For protons to be effective and reach the tumor, they must be accelerated to incredibly high speeds. To do that requires the most cutting edge technology. We're at the beginning of the acceleration process here. We start with hydrogen gas and then ionize the hydrogen gas, which strips off the electron, leaving us with a proton. The protons are collected into a narrow beam and travel into the synchrotron. This is where we accelerate the protons. The protons are accelerated to about 60% the speed of light. That takes 8 million turns around this machine within one second, which is the same as four and a half times around the Earth in that one second. The synchrotron is tuned so that the energy of the protons matches the dimensions of a patient's tumor. At this point, they're traveling more than 150,000 times faster than a speeding bullet. This is the proton gantry. The gantry is over three stories tall and it weighs 100 tons. This gantry arm directs the protons into a patient's tumor with an accuracy of one millimeter. We're here in the proton therapy treatment room. We believe what's been achieved here at St. Jude is the most advanced proton therapy treatment room in the world today. One aspect of that is the scanning nozzle, which you see behind me. We believe we've achieved the smallest beam spot in the world. The scanning nozzle brings the beam from the synchrotron directly into the patient target. To ensure the patient is in the correct position and the beam is hitting the tumor in exactly the right spot, a cone beam CT scan, or CBCT, takes X-rays 360 degrees around the patient. This is essentially a CT scanner mounted on a robot. It allows us to do 3D imaging of our patient's internal anatomy, giving us a more accurate alignment for our proton therapy beam. Most other proton therapy centers use a 2D system, so our 3D system really represents an advancement in our field. All the technology we've seen today, the synchrotron, the huge gantry, those pieces are all focused on one point, and that's our patient population here coming into St. Jude. The proton therapy is a great hope for us and our patients to cure more cancer. This is now the world's first and only pediatric exclusive proton therapy center. I'm very proud to say that four and a half years later, not only will we treat a patient, but we will have the most advanced technology. We're doing things that nobody else has ever done, and we can't wait to show it off. Reporting to you live from inside the bullpen. Hey, buddy. Hello. How's it going? I'm in the bullpen. Look at this. Look at these people. Oh, and there's more coming in. As we speak, these are all actual donations occurring live. $50 or more gets your name on a ball. But also, we want to raise more money so we can do silly stuff to our faces. I have googly eyes up next. Stephen has biker mustache. We need to get to $220,000. Stephen, where are we? Right now we are at $207,000, so just $13,000 shy from the next beard goal. But we have already raised, I've lost track of how much money we've raised. $207,000. No, completely, in total, since we began today. Oh, since we began today. That's math that the people in the year would have to tell me. I realize I've lost the control room. Oh, they're fine. They're screaming at you. So we're going to read some more names. We have Howard from the UK. Oh, dear, I wasn't expecting that. We have Jarrett Meyer from Chicago. Oh, gosh. You don't have to keep throwing them on my head. I know. We have Brian in Washington, DC. Thank you, Brian, from Washington, DC. And we've got all these people in there. How's it going in there? Are you comfortable? Yeah, it's disconcerting when they land on the head like that. Oh, yeah, it's fine. Oh, boy. And I'm like, I've lost everything. I'm very wired up and I'm losing all my wires. Oh, boy. I want to talk a little bit about what these donations mean in real life, because I think it's helpful to anchor these. And I have to look at this tiny laptop over here. But $100 helps provide platelets for two patients. So, like, for instance, when Josiah was on chemotherapy, it, of course, affects your immune system, and platelets can be infused to help bring that back. And that's a process that looks very much like receiving blood, but it's just platelets. And so these two balls, how to make that possible. That's pretty cool. That's really great. Coming up to $250. So, we've raised, I think I was told by the control room, $37,000 since we began today. That's awesome. Thank you all. And that was, like, three and a bit hours ago. So, we still have a bunch more hours. I don't even know where I am when it comes to time anymore. Two hours and 15 minutes left to go. So, we can do much more to our beards in this period of time. One thing that's cool about St. Jude you saw yesterday is the K-Cafe. Look, we've all had hospital food, and we all know that can be a little bit less than ideal. That's not true here. It's an amazing kitchen with amazing chefs. $250 can provide meals for a family for a week when they're here at the hospital. So, I'm going to throw a week's worth of meals at you now. Excellent. That sounds... So, there's three and a couple more. Let's go get all this food. Yeah, get all this food. It's a food fight. I'm very hungry, so it'd be great for me right now. Really cool. And think about people who have to fly, right? So, you fly a lot, right? I do, yeah. I fly a lot. We travel a lot for work. I fly in. And families have to come and go. And, you know, I love Memphis, but it can be a tricky airport to deal with. Memphis is not the biggest airport, so delays, and it's expensive to get in and out of here. St. Jude covers all that, too, so I'm going to throw some airplane tickets at you here. I don't think St. Jude... Here's some airplane tickets. I don't think any plane flies direct to St. Jude. They should. To Memphis, I should say. Open... No, nothing comes direct to Memphis. Nothing flies direct to Memphis. St. Jude should... You cannot get a direct flight to Memphis from anywhere. All that stuff means real change in people's lives, like my wife Mary spoke about, who's, like, way better at me than this. She should just be up here for the last three hours. I don't think she would necessarily agree with you. She's shaking her head now. Because she did lose her voice. That's true. It's pretty important that people can speak. But Mary was incredible, and I'm very pleased that we got to talk to her today. Me, too. So I'm going to dump the rest of these on you. Please do. And then in a moment, I'm going to be joined by a St. Jude patient named Anna. Great. So do you want to just... Here we go. Yeah, here you go. Oh! Right in the face. You okay? Yeah. Do you need first aid? No. I'm just wondering, like, is there a video now? There will be a video. Am I just sitting here now? You're just sitting in the... Do I sit here for the whole time you're doing the interview because I'm not allowed to leave? Yeah, yeah. You're allowed to leave? Is that what happens? You've got to stay down there. Because I definitely feel like at this point, I'm not allowed to leave, but you keep leaving. Yeah, it's great. Maybe we can do some things that the more people donate, the longer you stay in there. No. Let's go to a video, and I'm going to go take a break. There's always two sides to look at every issue. You can look at it as this is the worst thing in the world, or you can look at it like it's just something you have to do. And I like to look at things as glass half full rather than full. So when I was 10 years old, I came down with mycoplasma pneumonia. I was really lethargic, wasn't eating much, and I was really scared. I came down with mycoplasma pneumonia. Her doctor noticed that she had lost six pounds in six weeks. We just thought that she was thinning up and she was losing some of her baby fat, but that was not the case. We went and got a chest X-ray done, and that showed a mass right here. And we got the news that it was Hodgkin lymphoma. It was very scary, very quick, and very frightening because she needed immediate treatment. I had never thought about a child with cancer. I had no game plan, no plan, no nothing. And our pediatrician, she's just sitting there with her hands shaking. She said, OK, here's the deal. You can go anywhere you want to go, but if it was my child, I would go to St. Jude. And I said, well, then that's what we'll do. She goes, OK, go home and pack your bags. You're leaving tonight. So there we went. I remember the first day Mary Browder came in, and she was this little fragile child. And she looked sick and scared. But here at St. Jude, we want to learn more about patients with Hodgkin lymphoma. And maybe this will also give us insight on how we can treat it better. When you go through a situation like this, you never know what the future holds. But Dr. Metzger was great with Mary Browder. I think that's why when she suggested the clinical study, we jumped at the chance. I was the ninth person on that clinical study. It was engineered to decrease the negative side effects of the chemo, so I wouldn't have as much nerve pain, nausea, vomiting, all that kind of stuff. And I didn't. I went on with my normal life while I was having treatment. We knew that St. Jude would take care of our daughter. And this was an opportunity to make that healing that much better. And it was successful beyond our wildest dreams. Pack up your bags, get out the door, you don't get chemo anymore. Woo! I'm now about three years out from treatment. I go back every four months for just a checkup. And I'm as healthy as I can be. It is absolutely amazing for us to run clinical trials at St. Jude. The whole infrastructure for clinical trials is unique. It gives me so much more time and opportunity to be creative and to come up with new research that then will provide answers that can be adopted worldwide. St. Jude is a place where everyone cares about you, not just because it's in their job description, but because they truly want to. I mean, everything we do every day depends on fundraising. So to all the donors, thank you for giving me the opportunity to reach as many children as possible, not only at St. Jude in the United States, but worldwide. Without your help, this would not be possible. Who knows what I'm going to do with the rest of my life, but my experience with cancer and with St. Jude has helped me become more confident about who I am and what I can do. Cancer was just a bump in the road, and I can do pretty much anything I set my mind to now. All right, hello and welcome back. Mike is taking a break. He's not in the ball pit. We let him get out, thankfully. But I'm joined by my friend Anna. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm good. So you are a survivor. You spent time here at St. Jude as a kid. I thought maybe we could talk about that. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. So in talking with you before, your story is pretty different than ours. We're a local Memphis family. I grew up down the street. You did not, did you? No, I came from far, far away. Far away. And so tell me a little bit about how you ended up here at St. Jude. Yeah, so my story began back in Colombia in South America in 2001. I was living with my parents, and going to school I started being the last one to finish the labs we had to do in PE class or the swim labs. And I remember my classmates just thought I was being lazy. Pick it up, come on. Yeah, exactly. And then I was walking a little, like, with just tilted forward this way, and then we thought it was because of the backpack, like the books were too heavy. Sure. And then I started having headaches. They got more frequent as time went by. And then one time I was having lunch with my mom, and I was so weak that I couldn't lift a spoon. So that's when we knew something was definitely wrong, and they did some tests there, and they saw I had anemia. So then they did more tests to find out why I had the anemia, and it turned out I had leukemia. Wow. How old were you? Ten. Wow. So you're 10 years old. You've had some stuff, small stuff going on, which talking to patients and patient families, that story is pretty similar, right? It's like some small stuff and kind of before you realize it, you're in a pretty serious situation. Now you're 10. Do you sort of have a sense at this point how serious things are, and then how do you move from that to being here? No, not at all. Like for me it was okay, headaches, a little nausea. It's fine. I can still do the things I like to do as a kid. But I started getting a little suspicious when my parents told me when I was in the local clinic there that we were going to go and take a trip to the United States. By the way, we're going to change countries real quick. Yeah. And they said they're going to do some more exams there. I'm like, okay, cool, but since we're going, can we go to Disney? Oh, I like that. I like that. Because to me the U.S. always meant Disney World. We're already here. You might as well just do it. Exactly. I like that a lot. That's good. So they were like, uh-huh, sure, we'll do that. But first we're going to stop in this place Memphis. And even back then I thought Memphis was just like a town over Orlando or something like that. Sure. It's a little bit of a drive to Florida. It is. I was really sad when I found out there were no beaches here. We can go down by the river, but it's not the same. It's not. Catfish in the river, dolphins in the Gulf of Mexico, different things. Yeah, just a little bit. But we got on a plane again, and I had Disney World in my head the whole time. It was even like, I remember when we got to the airport in Atlanta that they got me a wheelchair. And that's when I was like, I don't need a wheelchair. Like, I'm fine. Like, what is wrong with these people? But we used a wheelchair or whatever. They're like, oh, it's just the biggest airport. Their defense, Atlanta is a big airport. It is big, yeah. But then we get to Memphis, and the next day we go to this local clinic and they do more kind of the same exams again. And then as far as I know, just same thing, like nothing new. And then next day we arrive at St. Jude. My parents told me we were going to go to this hospital, but I remember walking in, and I was very confused. It did not look like a hospital. They welcomed us. Then I remember they blew like so much blood I almost passed out. And then a little while, they took us to a room, and that's when we met our doctor, Dr. Rivero. And while waiting for him, actually, I saw a book, like a patient, what's it called, like a welcome binder with some information. Oh, there's my doctor. And it said, welcome to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. You're here because your child has been diagnosed with some cancer, something along those lines. And that's when it hit me. And I don't think they do that anymore, by the way. I think they changed that. But at the time I was freaking out, and then the doctor came in, and he did tell me I had cancer, but he also said it's leukemia, it's a very common blood cancer in kids, and that if I follow treatment, the chances were, I think, 90% at the time in 2001. And that was a percentage. I know leukemia was one of the diseases St. Jude tackled in its early days when the survival rate was single digits. Yep, 1962, I think it was 4%. Isn't that wild? Yeah, it's amazing. So luckily when I was 10, I was somewhat smart enough to understand percentages, and then I felt a lot calmer knowing that I had this doctor and I had a team, and then treatment started for the next two and a half years. I want to get to that, but I want to back up a second. You said something that caught my attention, that you came here and it didn't seem like a hospital. And I think that comes across in the videos we've been showing a little bit, you walk into this place and it doesn't smell like a hospital. It's not lit by terrible fluorescent lighting. There's murals and there's artwork and there's a self-playing piano in the cafeteria, and they have made it really a home. And that's so interesting to me that even as this 10-year-old going through this, that that resonated with you. Definitely, because even in Columbia, I was just at a hospital there, right? And those are like typical white walls, doctors in their white coats, nurses in their green or whatever color, kind of scary looking. And then here, that's why I was so confused. The walls were painted. And I also remember all the nurses having their scrubs with Scooby-Doo or Mickey Mouse and just being so friendly. I passed somebody yesterday on our tour, and they were wearing scrubs that made it look like it was dinosaur bones. I was like, that's so cool. I want a T-shirt that looks like that. So what was treatment like? How long was it? And were you, again, being 10, 11 years old, could you get what was going on? Or how did you approach that? So for the treatment for leukemia and for girls, it's also like six months longer. So that's why it was two years and six months. And the first three months are the hardest because that's when, and I forget the face of this part of the treatment, but that's when they essentially give you a leukemia to kill all the cancer cells. So it's very, very aggressive. That's also usually when your hair falls out, when they give you steroids, so you start getting chubby, which, you know, as a 10-year-old. Sure. It's hard. I wasn't quite a teenager yet, but still. It's hard. Yeah, it was definitely hard. But I remember, like, then I got this blue hat and I had that blue hat everywhere I went. They even, I got a wig and I always wanted to be a blonde, so I got a blonde wig. There you go. I like it. In every step of this story you're telling me, you always see, like, the upside. Like, oh, we're going to America. We just go to Disney. My hair's falling out, but I can be a blonde now. I like your, you're always looking on the upside. I like it. Yeah. Speaking of wigs, I can also remember my parents, you know, my mom, like, kind of volunteered. She was like, honey, if you want, I can, you know, I'll shave my head, too. A lot of parents I know have dads with cancer kids who have done it. Yeah, and I truly appreciate that, but I just told them, like, what's the point? I'm doing it to my face tonight. People do it. Can't wait for that. Silly, coming off. So, yeah, I had a blonde wig, and then after those three months, treatment started getting a lot more bearable. I also had that pink hat, too. Oh, that's a good hat. And after those three months, then I was essentially able to go to school almost every day unless I was feeling really sick or something. And then what's amazing about St. Jude is, for example, a doctor arranged so my appointments would be on Tuesdays at 4 p.m., I remember. So I could, you know, go to school and have as much of a normal life as possible. Sure. But in a sense, it's not normal life, right? You're doing this, but you're also in a place you didn't grow up, surrounded, I would imagine, by people you don't know. And we were talking earlier, and some of these pictures were seeing your parents. And that relationship between any kid and any parent obviously can be complicated, right? But how was that relationship going through all this stuff? Like, you went through every life change I can think of all at once. And how did they respond? How did you guys kind of grow as a family through that? Yeah, I think, so when I think of St. Jude, I think always of resilience. And I think everybody in the family, the patient, the parents, the doctors, everybody has to be resilient, right? And you have to adapt. So for me, not only was, you know, treatment, but then also then attending school. And while I went to a bilingual school in Colombia, English was not my forte. Not that I like it back there, but here, like, I had to learn, right? And luckily as a kid, I was able to pick that up quickly. For my parents, my mom did speak English, so it was really nice to have her, especially when we started treatment. You know, she would translate for us, even though I know St. Jude also has an amazing translator program. But we had her, so that was nice. And then with my dad as well. So for that time that we're in treatment, we stay in Target House, which is the place where families stay for long-term treatment, which is, and they give you an apartment. And then during that time and after those first three months where I had to be at the hospital constantly, and then I was sort of able to go to school, then you start having a lot more free time. So also, like, what do the parents do? Because I remember my parents would take me to school and then they're just hanging out. Just hanging out, right? Sleeping is what they're doing, they're sleeping. But I think now they have a lot of activities and things for them to do. But even back then, my dad started volunteering at the local clinic that referred me here. And actually through that, he got a sponsorship and that's how we were able to stay here. So I think you just adapt. When people tell you when you're going through this, like, I don't know how you do it. I think Mary was speaking to this too. You just do. And you kind of deal with it and make the best of it. I think that's maybe part of, like, every time you talk to me about something, I say, like, but the upside. All of this. So just one day at a time. And if you have a strong support system, I think you can just do about anything. Did you make it to Disney? I did. That was my make a wish, which is basic. It was between, I hate myself because it was between that or going to a Harry Potter set. Oh, I don't know why I didn't do that. That's like my only regret. Let's go back and redo that one. Yeah. Yeah. The decided to make his make a wish at Disney as well. I guess it was popular. It's an amazing experience. It is. And it's nice. And St. Jude does this. I make a wish a separate, but St. Jude does this a lot here too, of giving families opportunities to do things to get away from treatment. So I know you've been through a lot of holidays here at St. Jude, Halloween and Christmas and all the others. Do you have a favorite memory from that time of when the hospital kind of goes crazy with the holidays? So that and then before I get to that, I also want to talk about bingo nights and pool like tournament nights. Okay. So at Target House, there are two pool tables. Yeah. And what's amazing is like you got all these kids from like six, seven years old to me, like learning how to play pool. Like I remember like another friend Ramon and like he was a pro and he was like an eight year old. He was like owning everybody. Every pool tournament he would win and he would get like the best prizes. And then we had bingo nights where also there was a lot of yelling and screaming and crying, but not because we were in pain from treatment. It was because we were trying to get those prizes. So things like that, that just make you forget. The pain of losing bingo. Yeah. Oh, that was real. That's real. That's the real pain. So those little things like that just make you forget that, you know, you're going through treatment. And then as far as like the big things, I think the holidays were the best. I love how to just over all the decorations, both here in the hospital and at Target House, you can just feel the holidays are coming and then you just get extra presents and toys. So that was always something nice. Yeah. The holidays here are great. And we have experienced a lot of them ourselves and a lot of those things. I think St. Jude is so good. Are we coming back to this tonight? It wasn't planned, but like talking about St. Jude does care for the whole family. Yes. And, you know, again, having parents, having things to do, your dad volunteering and your family's still involved. They are. My dad works here actually at the hospital. Yeah. He's a database analyst. He's been here for six, seven years. Awesome. Yep. And my mom works at the clinic that referred me. So they both love Memphis. And my dad has been really happy here. Yeah. That's awesome. I just think about that journey. It's almost overwhelming to from their perspective, you know, having a sick little girl and coming here and then it changing everything about your life. But all for the better. Which is not what I mean. I know I certainly didn't say that. I'm sure you didn't certainly think that then. Like how how would there be upside in this? But there is for so many families. I know you almost feel guilty to say this because unfortunately not every family makes it yet. But it almost feels like it was a blessing in disguise. It was the best place you never want to be. That's a good that's a good way to put it. Yes. And a place where housing, meals, everything. Everything is covered. Is covered. So I guess when you guys moved, I mean, they're not going home to work. Like you're in that situation where that stuff not being provided would have been really scary. Oh, yeah. I actually, yeah, I have some a little story about that. So when we first came in that first day that we, you know, so the nurses, they took my blood, all that stuff. And then they send us they're going to send us to a hotel. And they told us to go see the some lady that takes care of that. Sure. I forget the name. Like a coordinator of something. Yeah. That place had a name in the basement. I forget. Anyway, so we go there and my dad is really worried. And he's telling my mom to tell the lady that to please like send us to like the cheapest hotel they can. They can find because we don't have a lot of money. And my mom tells her that. And the lady is like, oh, don't worry about it. And my dad's like, no, tell her. We really need the right. We don't have a lot of money. And again, she's like, we got it taken care of. Like you take this cab waiting for you upstairs. Go and take you to a hotel and we'll see you tomorrow. And then I am here's your schedule. It's amazing. Yeah, that we couldn't we couldn't believe that. That night at the hotel, we prayed real hard. We were so thankful to be here and to be admitted. And it took us a few days to believe that Cindy was providing all of that. My parents both obviously had to quit their jobs, especially when they tell you your child's going to be here for two and a half years. You obviously cannot work. So, yeah, you know, for international students, like students, international families coming like even that, I guess, you don't you don't think about you like really don't have the option. Right. So it's really a blessing. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you all who are watching. You can go to St. Jude dot org slash relay. This is an important mission because St. Jude is leading the way the entire world, not just here in the United States. The whole world understands treats and defeats childhood cancer. And thank you for telling us your little part of that story. Thank you so much. And for everyone who's donated or is thinking about it, please do so. Thank you. Awesome. So we're going to go to a quick video and then we're going to be joined by another special guest. We all exist here on this planet to benefit others. That's how my wife and I feel when we when we give to St. Jude every month. Our giving to St. Jude is right up there with our mortgage. That's the priority that we put on giving to St. Jude. I can tell you that it's the greatest satisfaction I have. I'm giving life by being a donor. We just think of how we would feel if our kids had cancer. It's giving back for the blessings that we have been given in our life. It's a cause that should resonate with anyone who believes that a child should be able to live a long, healthy life. There's something about putting your arms around a child and bringing comfort. That's something that we can all agree on. When everyone comes together for this good, nothing can stop it. And we're back. I don't know why we both just sat there quietly. We can see we're live. We're into this camera. None of the lights are on. How are we supposed to know? If you don't put the lights on, you're just waving at us wildly. We are at $209,000. $209,000. Thank you so much to everybody that has donated at stjude.org. Why did I have to think about that? I haven't said it a million times already. What happened there? We need to raise another $11,000 to do more bid action. So stjude.org. We have something special coming up next that may make you want to donate more. We do have a special guest calling in who might be there now. I'm going to be joined by Jason Snow. You're in the Snow Zone. There it is. Oh, look at the special attire from Jason Snow. I am dressed as somebody who is late in a telethon. Everything is unbuttoned. The tie is loosened up. It's the last half of the telethon. I'm dressed appropriately. No glitter. No glitter on my face. What if there was a guy knocking on your door right now with glitter? What if we had planned that? I would accept the glitter. Look under your desk, Jason. There's a glitter bomb. Jason, you've had a busy week. Big week. You've had iPhones. You've had iOS 13. You're one of the few people who has had a lot of experience with both the 11 and the 11 Pro. I'm curious where you come down on the differences. I know you were a big XR fan. Does the 11 continue carrying that torch? It's cheaper. It does more than the XR. I'm actually really excited about the 11. My daughter got her phone to take away to college next week. It's the first time she's ever had a non-hand-me-down iPhone. She's super excited. She got the purple. I think it's a great phone. I've got an iPhone here, too, Stephen. Everybody can check out the... Oh, look at that. It's an OG. Let's just put this in context. Oh, boy. Is that the Max next to it? That's wild. I'd love to see that. You're not going to pull the screen off that like Alex did, are you? I can't do that. We can't go through that again. We've had enough of that for one night. No, never again. One time only. Jason's now. Jason, what do you think? Do you have an Apple Watch? I don't have the new one yet. It's on the way, but it's not here yet. Is it still out to be shipped to you today? No, I think I'm not getting it today. I think I waited. I woke up too late. Actually, you know why I was working? It was because they put those on sale right after the event, and I was at the event. So it's coming beginning of next week. It's going to be in a box full of glitter instead of packing peanuts. Be prepared. That's how you should do it. You should ship me something from AI via UPS, and it'll be a glitter bomb inside. Get right on that. Just get right on it. So you think the 11 is definitely the way people should go if they're looking to upgrade? Those of us who are pro users are going to get the pro, and we're going to pay a lot of money for it, and we're going to be happy about it. We're pro phone professionals. I don't even know. But for regular people, they already said it's the best-selling model, and I think for regular people, it's all that most people need. With that second camera, you've got portrait mode that isn't fake. It's actually using the second lens to do depth detection. And yeah, I think it's really good. I'm very happy they're doing it. It also lets them have a starting price for the line that's a lot less than $1,000, and I approve of that, too. Yeah, absolutely. With the iPhone X in particular, it's like, the one you want's a grand, oh, we have this other old one that is less, but everyone was drawn to the X. It feels like they've kind of gotten the ship right again. Yeah, I think so. I think the line makes a lot more sense now, too. I like that you can say, this is the 11 instead of this is the X with an R, and there's X with an S, and what does it all mean? I like that it's clear and with that model as the base, as the 11. I think that's the way to do it. Yeah, what does the R stand for? Nobody knows. Don't have that problem anymore. Really? In between the other two models? I don't know. Does it really roll off the tongue? No. Back when they did the S, the 3GS, and we asked what the S stood for, and they said it stands for speed. And then the next day they called and said, don't say that, don't say that, it doesn't stand for speed. It's like, okay, whatever. Yeah. Whatever, Apple. We've got to reuse this in the future. Don't pigeonhole us. Exactly. It doesn't mean anything. It just is a letter. What does the R stand for? R. Really a good phone that you should buy. Really, please don't forget about this one. So, no Apple Watch yet, but I want to ask you about the future, because you seem like the guy who knows about the future. Is there an October Apple event heading our way? I feel like there probably should be. They did one last year. I don't think we're going to get a big iPad Pro. I mean, if we get new iPad Pros, it's going to be a speed bump. But the fact that they didn't announce that tracker, that would be a really good product to have on sale in the holidays, if they can manage to make enough of them to get them out there. I feel like there are these rumors about that 16-inch MacBook Pro. A Pro event, more Pro-focused, with a new Mac and some new iPads and stuff. Couldn't hurt. The real question, Stephen, is where will they hold it? That is the real question. My studio is available. They can come to my house. Okay, great. You never know. Wait until you get the invitation, and then you'll know. Let's go. It's here. I don't have to go anywhere. It'll all be at your house. It feels like maybe they would do New York again, I think. I think that they could do that. They've done it a few times. I have a pet theory I've saved to share here. Oh, great. Think about the Chicago iPad event. It was about education. They went to this really fancy school. The Mac Pro in particular, maybe this MacBook Pro aimed at professionals, maybe they do it in someplace like LA, where there's a lot of professional video and audio work going on. Or, if they're going to unveil something to help you find stuff, what if they do it in the Bermuda Triangle, where everything gets lost? Great idea, Mike. Great, great. I'm going to run that up the flagpole and see what Tim Cook says. But I think, Stephen, if I had to bet on someplace, not Cupertino for that event, I think I would bet LA, too. Not only do they have their whole services presence, and they're launching that on November 1st, but you're right. Where are the pros who are buying that Mac Pro, who are going to want to know about that 16-inch MacBook Pro if it exists, and the iPad Pro? Telling that pro story, New York's not a bad place to do it. LA is a great place to do it. So maybe they go to LA. We'll find out soon enough, I guess. The weather is great in LA in October, because it's great in LA all the time. Look at me. I'm in California. He's not in LA, though. We've got a rivalry. Northern California, Southern California, we don't get along. Except when we hate everybody else. There it is. As you do. It's like a united front. So, Jason, you have put something together for us. Yes, you guys get a break for a little bit. I'm so excited, because there's food out there. Everyone else is eating. We're not eating. So, do you want to intro this video for us? Yes. So this is something brand new. It's never been seen by anybody other than you guys and the people who are in it. We did the fifth anniversary show for Relay FM in San Francisco, and the center part of that was this game show that I hosted that was based on Family Feud. And it was questions that we asked of Relay FM listeners. We got more than 3,000 answers to this survey that we asked. We ran three rounds of it to determine who the champion was out of four teams of Relay FM hosts. But we ended up with some questions left over that were not used on stage in San Francisco. And so last week, I got together six Relay FM hosts, and we played another round of Relay FM Feud. So you're going to be seeing – we have Team Arment, which is Marco Arment, Tiff Arment, and Dan Morin was assigned to that team. He's an honorary Arment. He's adopted. And we had Team Studio Neat, where Tom Gerhart and Dan Provost were joined by honorary Team Studio Neat. I believe early in this video, they offer Christina Warren the job of CEO of Studio Neat, if she wants to just take that over for them. So there may be a job offer going in there. So six great Relay FM hosts, and we played a quick game of Relay FM Feud. And again, the whole idea there is your Relay hosts are trying to guess what the great Relay FM listenership answered to these stupid questions that we asked them. Awesome. So we're going to go to that. Before we do, remember, stjew.org. This is what I want. I want when we come back from this family feud, we are at the next beard goal, which is 220,000. So let's make that happen in the next little while. And Jason, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Jason. Glad to be here. Good luck and get ready to shave, Stephen. I'm ready. Let's make it happen. Welcome, everybody, to the Relay Feud. I am Jason Snell, your host. Now, we solicited a survey from 3,000 Relay FM listeners. And although we used most of the questions in the special Relay fifth anniversary event in San Francisco for our little game of Family Feud, our little tournament, I don't even remember who won. It doesn't matter. It was fun. But we had a few questions left over. And I thought for the Relay FM podcast-a-thon for St. Jude, maybe we could do our own little Family Feud game with the extras that we didn't have and use hosts to play this game who didn't get a chance to play in San Francisco. And that's what we did. So let me introduce our teams for this quick special bonus Relay Feud game. Now, there's Team Arment. It's a little clue about who's on that team. It's Tiff Arment. Hello. Hey, Jason. It's Marco Arment. Hey, it's me. Oh, my God. And it's Honorary Arment, Dan Morin. I've been legally adopted for this show. Yep. You're in the family hierarchy, right? Somewhere around hops. Who knows where? Probably below. Probably below. Let's be honest. Yeah, if we're honest. It's true. I like you, Dan, but you know. We also have Team Neat. Team Studio Neat. So here we have Dan Provost. Hello. Tom Gerhardt also. Hey-o. And plus bonus. I decided to keep the people, the like people together. Bonus is Christina Warren. Hello. You're neat, too. We think you're neat. Yeah, you're hired. Yeah. Congratulations. I'm very excited. Do you want to be CEO? Like, we don't want to be CEO. You can be CEO. Jason, you had to separate the Morin-Warren, too. That was crucial. Yeah, I kept the Dan's apart. I kept the Morin-Warren apart. You know, the job of a game show host. It's hard. That's what I'm saying. All right, here's what we're going to do. We are going to go in order. I'm going to alternate rather than having you buzz in, because frankly, buzzing in over a long-distance connection is bogus. So we're just going to alternate. Everybody's going to get a chance to guess, and the person with the highest guess will get control of the board to these five different questions we asked of our relay listeners and got 3,000 plus responses, which is totally insane. That's an amazing number. So first up, it is Tiff and Dan Provost. You're stepping up to the virtual buzzer, and I'm going to let Tiff go first on this one. Tiff, you've got to answer fast. Wait, wait, wait. Do I say buzz? I forgot already. You have to buzz. I'm going to forgo the buzzing, because the buzzing is a fraud on the internet. So I was walking my dog today, and I thought, you know, the buzzing on the internet, I don't think it works. I think it's just about latency, and that's not. So I just say the answer? Just say the answer, but relatively quickly. To this question, which is Tiff, name a video game console. Oh, the Switch. Nintendo Switch. Show me Nintendo Switch. Oh, that's the number one answer. So you got the choice. I'm sorry, Dan. Sorry. Sorry about that. Do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, always play. Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. All right, so we will move on to Marco. Marco, the top six answers are on the board. Number one has been answered by your wife, Nintendo Switch. I'll remind you, and this goes for everybody. When I say the question, that's what we ask the listeners. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, always play. Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. All right, so we will move on to Marco. Marco, the top six answers are on the board. Number one has been answered by your wife, Nintendo Switch. I'll remind you, and this goes for everybody. When I say the question, that's what we ask the listeners. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. All right, so we will move on to Marco. Marco, the top six answers are on the board. Number one has been answered by your wife, Nintendo Switch. I'll remind you, and this goes for everybody. When I say the question, that's what we ask the listeners. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. All right, so we will move on to Marco. Marco, the top six answers are on the board. Number one has been answered by your wife, Nintendo Switch. I'll remind you, and this goes for everybody. When I say the question, that's what we ask the listeners. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? Yeah, it's an option that you should never take. The response is, do you want to pass or play? I think we always play, right? I think we always play, right? I think we always play, right? I think we always play, right? The apple pencil. That's not a medium! Do you know what I do? Show me the medium of the apple pencil. Oh, you do. You just got number five! Oh, no. Nobody said that. So... Of course not! It's not a medium! It's like some paper! Team Meat, do you want a pass or play? Yeah, it is. I was saying paper! You have six more to get. Alright, we're gonna play, right? Oh, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Alright. Team Meat, do you want a pass or play? Yeah, it is. I was saying paper! Alright. Team Meat, do you want a pass or play? We will extend our lead. Okay. Alright, well then that brings us to Christina. First, name an artistic medium. Photography. Show me photography! Number six answer, eight percent. Wow, what are these top four? Very good. Top four, you say. I know. As a reference. Alright, very good. We move on to Dan. What do you think? Name an artistic medium. Oh, boy. Let's go charcoal? Charcoal! Show me charcoal. Oh, no. That is not what they were thinking. It's a really medium. This is a difficult question, I think, because what do people think about an artistic medium? But that was what we were trying to find out. We were trying to plumb the depths of the psyche. So Tom, you've got, again, number five and six are taken. There are five left. I'm gonna go with music. Ooh, very good. Music. Alright. Not a visual art at all. Show me music. Number two answer. Look at that. Here we go. We're opening it up, guys. Very nice. Okay, now you're rolling. Christina, it's back around to you. Name an artistic medium. Writing. Show me writing. Oh, no. The respect for writing doesn't exist. I have some choice words for you. I could assume that was gonna be the case, but you didn't ask me. Alright, there's two strikes on you now. So Team Armand, get ready to huddle about this. Tiff has got like ten different answers she wants to give right now. But first, Dan, name an artistic medium. Let's go with dance. Dance. It's very nice. You know, my wife and daughter are both at the dance studio right now as we record this. It's a completely legitimate artistic medium. Let's see what the real AFM-lists are saying. Show me dance. No. Okay. What are they then? And fellow Armands, Marco and Dan, what do you think? You can steal these points. You have like lots of options. You've got like four options left on the board. The best one, the highest point total one, would of course be the best for you. All right, so I mean one of the ones I know Tiff, we should go with you, but I'm just going to throw it out there. Podcasting is probably on this list. I would go for something that's like spoken word, you mean? So I have written down, I have pastels, pencils, acrylics, watercolor, clay, pencils. Sculpture, yeah. And no one said pens, right? I'll just point out, again, not giving a clue here, just pointing out the answers so far. Photography and oil. Could like something as general as like drawing, like be, I don't know, like I don't know how to phrase it. Well, it's not really a medium, but if they're putting, hmm, the way they're phrasing it. Not all of these things are real. I mean, again. It could be like audio. Who knows? I mean, it could be so many, like, this is kind of, it's kind of a mishmash. Well, a medium is usually like what you use to create art. Right, right. Like the Apple pencil. No, that's like saying my medium is my brush. I bet it's frescoes. Fresco painting. That's what it is. It's like my medium is my brush. You guys should get pottery. Yeah, pottery is an option or like knitting. I don't know. Like, I feel like it's a clay. I was thinking like watercolors or sculpture, frankly. I felt like those are the two that jumped out at me. Yeah, me too. I would go watercolor out of those two, but I'm going to let you guys do this. I don't know if it's going to be about music, though. But we don't have to be above music. We just need to get on the board. We just need any of them. Right. Yeah. So you've got music number two and then you've got oil and photography down at five and six. So you've got a lot of different. Yeah, we've got one. We've got three, four and seven. So yeah, I would say like sculpture or watercolor. One of those. Oh, yeah. Flip a coin. Yeah, I would go watercolor out of those two. Do you have your relay challenge coin to flip? I do somewhere, but Marcos is watercolor. I would go with that. Out of those. All right, let's do it. Watercolor. All right. Show me watercolor. Oh, number seven. Oh, it's the smallest. What the hell is on the board? Overwriting. Number one answer. Comic books. Painting. Of course. OK. So painting is different than oil? I don't know. painting, of course, painting is different than oil? oils. I don't know. I don't understand the question, broadcasting. I told you, I told you it's broadcasting, of course, number 4 answer, movies and televisions. Oh my god, oh, like filmmaking yeah like direct. Would you have accepted like directing? I would have accepted filmmaking. I don't know about directing. In that ballpark. All right, well, the scores are now team meet 91, team arm in 44, but we've got three more rounds to go. So plenty of time. Let's move on. Dan Morin, you're going to get to go guest first to this one and then Christina Warren. That's a Morin and Warren access happening right now. You can follow him up if he doesn't get the number one answer. Dan, name a non fictional spaceship. It's the Liftoff podcast question. Oh, no, the Challenger. Right. Show me the Challenger number two. Number two. So, Christina, again, I'll point out, we asked people to name a non fictional spaceship and they told us whatever the heck they wanted. Challenger actually a spaceship that existed. Name a non fictional spaceship. Apollo 11. All right, show me Apollo 11. That's a rocket. I just realized I'm not a rocket. It's a it's a it's more it's like a whole system. And Apollo was the number one answer. So, oh, yeah. All right, team, neat. You have control of the board if you want it. That's why I clap. Thank God. Answers have been taken. There are five more to get. You ready to go? Yeah. Who's first? Dan. Oh, boy. Non fictional spaceship. Which means name a fictional spaceship. It's it's to me, you said. Yeah, Dan. Gosh, let's go with. Saturn five. All right. That's a big rocket. Is a rocket a spaceship? Is a spaceship a rocket? Show me Saturn five. Yeah, that's the number three answer. The Saturn. I would not have thought of that as a spaceship because it's just a rocket and not like people weren't in it. But it totally is. You're overthinking it. The number three answer. OK, you've got the top three out of seven. That brings us to Tom for another non fictional spaceship. I'm going to say Falcon. Great answer. SpaceX. Contemporary, contemporary reference for the space. All right. Show me Falcon. No, that's not. They didn't like that. They didn't like the. It's too bad these are, you know, liftoffs, not the largest relay show. It's like they're answering whatever they're answering. What are they? That's OK. Christina, I'm going to guess. So we're not supposed to. Yeah, you can't collaborate here. Yeah. You just have to answer. Just remember what Jason said. Just remember what he said earlier. Yeah. But I'm a wily host. I may not be giving away anything. I'm going to say Voyager. Voyager. All right. Feature to its friends. Show me Voyager. No, that's not. Sorry. That was old school. That was suitably old school. But it was not an answer. Dan, it's back to you. Name a non fictional spaceship that is not Apollo, Challenger or Saturn. Apple Park. I like your thinking answer. Imagine if that was the right answer. Show me Apple Park. No, that's not the right answer. I like your kid. I like your moxie. That was not it. And that means Team Armint, talk amongst yourselves. You've got to get one of the bottom four answers. Can you read back the answers that are on the board already? Apollo, Challenger and Saturn. All right. So one thing I can say is the space shuttle. Right. Like that's a spaceship. It has a name called the Space Shuttle. People know it. Yeah. And there are several different. I'm just trying to figure out how well the liftoff users like. They are. These are the liftoff people. That's true. That's true. I can't name any of these. I would have said the other one that I would have put in the mix is Columbia, which is another one of them, because the disaster is kind of one of those things, I think, that does make it into. But I like to Enterprise was another good suggestion. Yeah, I'm going. I think that's a real one. Yeah, that was the test shuttle that they ran before the space shuttle. I like your style, Tiff. But Space Shuttle is a good answer, too, because it is so generic, like. And like most people can't name many of these. Yeah. So I think I think Enterprise, Space Shuttle and Columbia are all good answers, but I don't know which one. I'm not sure which one. I vote non Columbia because I don't think I would have written that if I took a survey. But I might have written Enterprise to be snarky and a jerk and thinking that it was. I'm happy with either Enterprise or Space Shuttle, but I would lean more towards Space Shuttle. We're back down to the point. All right. What do you think? Challenge. Yeah, I don't want to pick wrong. I don't want to pick. I'm not picking for this one. All right. Let's let's go with the Space Shuttle. OK. All right. Show me the Space Shuttle number seven again. So we got like 10 points. You got it. So that was worth six. So you've got 72 points. You are now in the lead with one hundred and sixteen versus one for team neat. Number four answer was Enterprise. Wow. Number five answer was Columbia. No matter what. And number six answer was Discovery. I'll just point out those four space shuttles as well as Space Shuttle. Well, come on, Falcon. Come on, guys. Like Atlantis and Endeavor didn't make the list. No one likes those shuttles. Atlantis was the best shuttle, but it doesn't matter. It's fine. All right. We're going to move on. We're back around to the top. This will be Tiff and Dan. And this time, Dan will get to go first because Tiff unceremoniously picked the number one answer. Last time, Dan, you get to go first. Quickly. Tell me the name of a movie that is about technology. I'll just say the first thing that came to mind, Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs. Show me Steve Jobs. No answers for Steve Jobs. Sorry. Name a movie about technology. What if we both don't get it? Well, then your teammates get to guess next. We do this again. It's my turn. Yes, it is your turn. You Googling movies about technology now? No, I'm writing. I have a couple. I have a couple. I'm going to go with Terminator. Show me Terminator. Ladies and gentlemen, we have to go to our next set of people now. This is a plus moment in Family Feud history. And that means it's Tom now. Tom, name a movie about technology. Got the owl. The Social Network. The Social Network. Show me the Social Network. Number five answer out of six. And that means, Marco, name a better. Marco, you love movies. You know about all the movies. Tell me, name a movie about technology that's more than the Social Network, which got 13% of the answers here. I was actually going to answer that. I will say Pirates of Silicon Valley. Show me the Pirates of Silicon Valley. Our number three answer. Know the audience. Know your audience. Absolutely. You're going to pick Social Network. I showed you that movie for the first time. Assuming that you want to pick, you've got four more to get here. You don't want to pick though, guys. It's too risky. No, it really isn't. You always play. Dan Morin, you were next. Name a movie about technology with four left to go. I'm going to go with Sneakers. Sneakers. Now that is a movie. That's a great movie. Are you going with your heart there, Dan? That's one of my favorites. Yes. I love that movie. RIP River Phoenix, Dan. Sentimental pick. It is a great movie for people who haven't seen it. It's a great movie. But show me, did the Relay FM listeners agree with Dan is the question. Show me Sneakers. They should. If not, they're fired. Yes. Number six answer. Good job. All right. It's 12%. That was his Casey voting. Number six. Casey kept clicking the button over and over. Casey and I are simpatico. We know this. We see you, Casey. You are seeing three more to get, Tiff, a movie about technology. Again, I'll point out a movie that Relay FM listeners, 3000 of them said was about technology. Just, I mean, who knows? See, I don't know. I don't like these leading. I just say this stuff all the time. It's fine. You don't know what I'm going to. I have two in my brain right now. I shouldn't say both of them, right? In case other people. No, you shouldn't. Yeah. All right. iRobot. iRobot. Show me iRobot. At the Roomba? The story of the Roomba. No, that's not a thing, but I would love a movie about a Roomba, though. Oh, it'd be so cute. But no, that brings us to Marco. No, there's not. A movie about technology. This is, I'm actually having a hard time with this. This is a bit of a risk. I'm going to go with The Net. Oh, The Net. Did you know The Net was shot at Mackerel Expo in San Francisco? Yeah, it's right on the way. And Sandra Lederick and Dennis Miller? It did. Show me The Net. I mean, not literally. Don't show it to me. I've seen it. I don't need to see it again. Dennis Miller gets killed in the middle of it. Spoiler alert. Oh, no, it's not on the list. Oh, God. Betrayed again by Dennis Miller. Betrayed by Sandra Bullock. Dan Morin, name a movie about technology. I'm going to go with The Matrix. Oh, yes. Have you seen The Matrix? Does Keanu Reeves have a mini disk in it? He does. He totally has. He has a mini disk full of data. Show me The Matrix. Number one answer. Yeah. Wait, wait. Does he have a mini disk while he's in The Matrix or before? No, before. When the people come to his door and he's got his secret hacker stuff. It's on Sony's mini disk. But that is The Matrix, right? That's not in The Matrix. OK, is it in the film The Matrix? Yes. Is it in The Matrix in the film The Matrix? No. No. OK. Well, no. Yes, it is, because The Matrix is real. Yeah, it is The Matrix. So it is in The Matrix. It's both the film and The Matrix. Wait, wait, guys. Slow down. Slow down. I haven't seen this movie. Are we in The Matrix? Anyway, it's Tim's turn. Oh, no. Yeah, I hate to break it to you. There's still two more on the board and you're up next. You said you had two ideas. I do, but it's from the 80s. Oh, this is really hard. You never know. Batteries not included. Oh, very. Asterisk, batteries not included. Show me. Batteries not included. Oh, no, it's three strikes. That's time for the other side. And now, Tini, you just need to get one of those two. Oh, Hackers. It's Hackers, WALL-E. 2001. Hackers. It's Hackers. 2001. 2001. So we've got two choices. 2001, Hackers or WALL-E would be. I think, I think, I think so. The Matrix. How popular was Hackers? Hackers was popular. I mean, people still make those memes. Yeah. It's not good. It's not good. It's terrible. It's a horrible movie. I don't know. I don't, I feel like Christian did. I had Hackers written down, so that seems like a consensus. Hackers. Do it. OK, Hackers. It's a noun involved in technology, therefore it could be on the list. Show me. Hackers. Yeah, it's the number two answer. Good job. You got it. You got it. The, the missing item now. War Games? Was War Games. Yes. That's it. That was the one I came down. Awesome. Also from the 80s. You've got mail. I thought that was going. Come on. You've got mail. Imagine. You've got mail. What are you talking about? The whole movie was about email. The whole movie is about, about technology. Here's where we are. Team Neat has 176. Team R-Men has 116. Unless this next one is so hard, it's not, that nobody gets any right answers. The team that wins. Will win. OK. That's good. It's round five, and that means it's Marco and Tom. Marco. And Marco gets to go first to answer this question. I'm looking in your eyes, Marco. Marco. You're too far away. Name a relay FM host. Oh. This is so dangerous. We didn't dare use it in San Francisco, but it's going to finish us out here on the podcast-a-thon. Take your shot, Marco. It's got to be Mike Hurley. Show me. Hi, Mike. Yeah, that's the number one answer. Of course. He hosts like 90,000 shows. Of course it's Mike. All right. You guys have control of the board. There are eight total. Eight hosts. Are there that many shows on relay FM that there are eight hosts? I guess so. Dan Morin, you've got number two through eight to guess here. Name a relay FM host. Tom Carhartt, of course. I'm going to say our good friend, Mr. Stephen Hackett. Show me Stephen Hackett. Number four answer. He's a co-founder. I've got number four. Wow. But still, he's in the top half. I can't believe I made number two. He's in the top half. Name a relay FM host. Me? Yeah. No, not me. I'm not guessing myself. I'm going to go with Jason Snell. Me? You. Little me? Snellsy. What if the host of this game show was actually an answer? That would be crazy. Show me me. Oh, it's me. I'm number two. All right. I love it. Amazing. Shocking. Look at that. Okay. But there's still five more, Marco. Name a relay FM host that isn't Mike or me or Stephen. CGP Grey. You know, he did a video. He posted a video. Oh, yeah. We still need to watch that one. Did you know he did videos on YouTube? He does. I know some people. I've never heard of him. Show me CGP Grey. Number three answer. The Cortexians. They're out there. There are many of them. Okay. The top half of the board has been swallowed whole. Dan Morin, you got to get the bottom half here. Host five through eight. Name a relay FM host. I'm going to say Federico Vatici. Hey, it's Federico Vatici. Show me Tichy. Number five. Oh, well done. Well done. Seven percent. Whoever wins this is winning the whole game now. Tiff, name a relay FM host. I'm going to go with Marco Armit. Can you imagine if you guessed Marco and he wasn't there? Show me Marco. Oh, no, he's not there. Oh, no. Oh, my God. I think everybody knows Marco is the host of ATP more than anything else, but who knows? I don't know. It didn't come up under the radar. I'm going to be mad. Not on the radar. I guess it's right in the title. You're under the radar. Okay, Marco, you don't get to guess yourself now. Name a relay FM. That's true. I'm going to this is it's getting it's getting a little tricky now because I'm having a hard time deciding now, but I'm going to take a small risk and I'm going to go with Mr. John Craig Syracuse. Oh, middle name spoilers. Show me John Syracuse. Yes, yes, yes. John Syracuse. A number six on the list. Seven and eight still to play for Dan. Name a relay FM host. We only have one strike, right? You only have one strike and it was you. I get that a lot, but it was also me. I'm going to say Merlin man. Merlin man. Everybody loves Merlin man. Show me Merlin man. Number eight answer. Good job. You have one left. Two strikes. I don't want to. So you got two strikes to give and only one answer left. We've heard about Mike and me and CGP Gray and Stephen Hackett Federico John Syracuse and Merlin man. One is left. Tiff name a relay FM host. Brad Dowdy. Show me Brad Dowdy. No, that's not it. That's not it. That's not the answer. Oh, boy. Marco. All the pressure. One name left. If you get it, you win. If you don't, team neat has the chance to steal. Oh, my God. You're so that's so much pressure. Mess this up. It's all for charity. Yeah. I'm going to try to play it by the numbers here. I'm going to go with David Sparks. Oh, I see what you're doing there. I see what you're doing. Back power users. Big audience. Show me Max Sparky. That's not it. I think the Mac power users, the listeners on the Internet. Guess what? Team neat. You need to name a relay FM host. And if you name it, the one person who's left, you win. I know. And if you don't, so much pressure. We win. They win. Okay. Talk amongst yourselves. Dan Morin. List. Nobody knows who didn't. Sorry. It's true. Oh, boy. Is there someone like not thinking about? I have like a one in 12 chance of getting it right. Yeah, I know. Who has like an Internet following? Well, David Sparks. I mean, underscore. Man, it's hard. Okay. Can you read the people who've already been listed? Now it's sure from top to bottom. My curly. That was 48% me. 15% CGP gray 8% Stephen Hackett 8% Federico 7% John Syracuse. A 5% empty space Merlin man 4% Pull the money. You look closely in Jason's glasses. I don't know what you're talking about. Between anything now. Man, this just feels like a shot in the dark. Superman. You look like a different person. Yeah. Take those glasses. I don't think Casey list is a terrible guess. It could be the same situation as Marco where the greatest endorsement Casey has ever received. I'm going to say if Marco is not there. I mean, it could be Casey means Syracuse. It makes sense. But if Marco is not there. Yeah. This is like such a weird thing to discuss. It's you know, it's quick. You have to pick one person. Yeah. I actually have a spreadsheet about Casey, just because we all kind of think it. I don't really know. Nothing else like jumps out at me. I say we just do Casey list so we can blame him for the rest of the time. He's charming. I feel like we're missing someone obvious, but I can't. Yeah. I was trying to get the directory here. But I think Casey, I think. Yeah. Let's just do it. Make him feel happy. All right. You know, resignation to stake your entire victory in this made up game on naming Casey list. Is he the cornerstone to your strategy? I think the fact that we're joking about this makes it feel real. People like to drag Casey and I feel like they feel like they I think we should say Casey. Yeah. I mean, I like the idea of being able to blame him when we. Yeah. I like this. Okay. Casey it is. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. Who will it be with this final guess? The final guess is Casey lists. And that is why team meat has won because the answer. Why was Mark on the list? I don't know. I think I don't know. He's under the radar. I was just hoping I was hoping the last person wasn't the other person I was going to guess, which is going to be Tiff. Yeah, that would be really bad if I lost by not guessing her after she gets me. Yeah. I mean, really, the saddest part here is that somebody guessed Casey and one, which means we're never going to hear the end of it from Casey. Yeah. All the guesses. Why does that happen? All right. Well, Dan, Tom and Christina team neat on the backs of Mr. Casey list. You won this edition of relay feud. Congratulations. You get the bragging rights. Two hundred and seventy five points. You won three of the five rounds and with one hundred sixteen points and two of the five rounds. Team Armin, Tiff, Marco and honorary Armin Dan Moran. I'm sorry. I have these lovely parting gifts for you, which is I don't know, Turtle Wax, Rice Aroni, something like that. It's a San Francisco treat. Sounds about right. It's appropriate. And so thanks to you all. Thanks to everybody who's watching the podcast on and to Stephen and Mike and everybody at St. Jude. And that ends this edition, perhaps the last one ever of the relay feud. Thank you. And back to Mike and Stephen. Wonderful relay FM hosts for another edition of family feud. I have eaten some food. Feeling better. I feel a lot better. Do you feel bad for Casey after watching that? No, I actually feel good for Casey. He was like the linchpin for victory. Well, because he beat Marco. That's true. So congratulations, Casey. And Merlin. Sorry, Merlin. Congratulations, Casey. So we are back. We are at $211,000. We want to be at 220 so we can do some more beardy stuff to Mike and I can lose this goatee, which feels very dated. Stjude.org slash relay. You can donate money like Taylor from Seattle, Washington did. Look at all these balls. There's a bunch of stuff in there. Can we get a camera shot on the balls? I'm sorry. I surprised you all. Look at this. Fill it up. Can I say something cool? Yes. We have donations from every 50 states. So someone in every state has given. I like that you had to say something cool but said it in an awkward way. Every 50 states. I'm here to talk about geography. And 36 different countries around the world. That is absolutely unbelievable. It's really cool. Thank you so much. Thank you all. If you have not donated yet and you're just hanging out in the chat, Stjude.org slash relay. I can read the list of countries but nobody wants that. But I can do it. I want to be excited. Latvia, thank you. Czech Republic. United Republic of Tanzania. Tanzania. We should not read names of places. Sorry, everybody. We should read more names. Netherlands is another one down there. All these mythical places. Like Peter who is literally from the Netherlands. Wow. How lucky is that? That was that one person. Luke from Springfield, Illinois. Andrew from Los Altos Hills in California. Reed and Aiden from Massachusetts and Washington. What is this place? Oh, no. From Andy from Canandaña in New York. New York. Canandaña. Everyone is shrugging. Everyone is shrugging. So that's great news. Andy from Macedonia, Ohio. We have Shia from Houston, Texas. We have Michael from the Woolwich Township in New Jersey. That sounds like a fancy place. I know. Trevor from, this is confusing, Wyoming, Ohio. You named your city after another state. Strong move. Seth from Long Island City. James from Arlington. It's a bunch of names. We want more names. Any donation of $50 or more, you get your name on a colored ball. And you're going to get back in that in a little while, I think. I think so. Or we both will. Maybe at separate times. I don't know if we can both fit in. There's only one way to find out. I think we have a special guest on the line. Do we? I think so. Do we have a special guest on the line? We're standing by for a special guest. So I'm going to read another person. These are more names. Another Seth from, I can't read that. Carter from Virginia. Brian from Redwood City, California. Stjude.org. Get us to $220,000 and we'll do thanks to our faces. Phil from Washington, D.C. I think our special guest is ready. We had Alex Cox on the show earlier from Dubai Friday. And I got a text message while we were in the break. So now please welcome Max Temkin to the Real AFM Podcastathon. Hi, Max. Hi, guys. Hi, Max. Thank you for joining us. Very good. How are you? Thank you for having me. I'm really enjoying the glitter and the facial hair configuration. It's all very exciting right now. We've got a lot going on over here. We're into how many hours? 120. Okay. Hour 120. So, Max. That's incredible. I'm an hour of 200 of my video game marathon here. That's good. A lot of mountain dew. Hang in there, guys. We're going to catch up with you soon. We actually, in the studio right now, there is a lot of kerfuffle because we can't see you. And there's a lot of monitors being moved around and cables being changed. Someone's picking something up now. This is why everyone needs an Alex Cox. There is a whole big thing happening. So, we can't see you right now, but I believe other people can. We know you're a very handsome man. Just so you can picture it, I'm sitting in my sponsored gaming chair. And I have a pretty pro battle station. That's good news. I can actually see you on the live stream now, which is slightly delayed. You're like the size of a postage stamp. You just look like you're on safari or something. How's it going? Mike, listen, you and I have some unsettled business. We do have unsettled business. You and I have some unsettled business. May I recount the story for your viewers? Please. I'm going to take advantage while you're sleep deprived. I can see you now. I saw you for literally one second and then the screen went off. But it was a good second. Well, listen, St. Jude's is spending that money to care for sick children. They're not buying pro streaming equipment like I am here in the studio. But, listen, Mike, I asked you, we have our super secret channel together. And I got hit by a car a little bit earlier this summer. And everyone got on my skateboard. And everyone got very mad at me. And they said, I think including you. And everyone was like, you have to wear a helmet. I was like, no, I don't think you look cool when you wear a helmet. But everyone persuaded me. And so I went online and I was like, what are the best helmets? Someone tell me the helmet reviews. And I saw this very interesting helmet from, it's like Danish, I think, called the Havding. And basically it's a, it almost looks like a handkerchief. Like you put it around your neck. And then if you get into an accident, it goes off like an airbag. And it encases your head. It seems like such a bad idea. I actually just got an Instagram ad that they have like a version 3. They target me on Instagram now. Well, so I got really hyped about this thing. Because I thought, well, here's a helmet that doesn't make you look really lame when you wear it. But it still provides, you know, allegedly the safety that a real helmet provides. So the only snafu was you're not allowed to order it in the United States of America. I don't know why. It's not street legal or it's not legal to have in the United States. So I said, Mike, since you were giving me such a hard time about wearing a helmet and protecting my brain, would you mail me this helmet? And Mike, because he's a wonderful person and a good friend and a caring, generous person, said, absolutely. And he went on some weird website and ordered this thing. And then he took it to Her Majesty's Royal Carrier Service and he mailed it to me. And all the meanwhile, just putting it on his credit card, paying out of pocket, buying the postage, sending the whole thing to me. And then a couple weeks later, I was like, Mike, where is that thing? And he was like, oh, yeah, I got a note saying that it was destroyed at customs because it was unsafe. They sent me a letter informing me that the fact that they had tracked this down and destroyed it. Destroyed is a strong word. It's a very scary letter because it kind of made it, they said, because I can't remember the exact wording, but basically made me feel like I'd broken the law. Yeah. And I was concerned somebody was going to come to my house. Yeah, well, that's, you know, Mike, that's pretty high risk behavior, sending a helmet in the mail. But anyway, I don't remember the exact cost of this helmet. It's in euros. So it's all it's all has no value to me. But I don't understand what it means. But Mike is stubbornly and cruelly refused to let me pay him back the price of this helmet. He's just like, no, man, you will get dinner. You'll take me out to dinner or something. And I was like, the helmet was like 300 bucks, right? More. It was about 300 euros, including shipping, I think. So what is that more or less? What is that like a thousand dollars? 300 euros to USD is says Google, three hundred and thirty dollars. 300. Oh, that's it. I thought the euro was. Was good. Brexit, man, we get into. Yeah, this is a nice place to bring that in. But all right. Well, anyway, I think you're I think now is kind of the right time to strike and pay you back in the form of a donation to St. Jude's, because I don't think you could turn it down. You also owe me more money. Oh, for that. For that ad. Yeah, you bought an ad that I think that I think I actually I don't think I can donate that to St. Jude's. I would love to. I would love to donate that to St. Jude's for tax purposes, but I think I actually need to pay really FM. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but I will. I will gladly. I feel like I feel like Mike, unless you're going to look this this poor, sick children in the eyes and tell them that you can't accept the donation. I think I think that's one. Yeah. One this debate. I think that's my I think that's my back door into paying you back for this helmet. So I think you've won. Yeah. Wow. What's next? How are you going to debase yourselves next? Well, googly eyes into my beard and Stevens going for a hand Obama's. So the bottom of the goatee is coming up. We've got about forty five hundred dollars to close that gap. And then we're going to be moving on to that next step. That's really cool. What's it going to cost to get someone to shave like a podcast logo into the side of their haircut? Well, that's going to need somebody who has the ability to do that. That's what that's going to need. We can do it afterwards. We're going to raise money throughout the rest of the month. That's true. Yeah. I'm more of a big ideas guy, you know? Yeah, true. Yeah, that's that's that's true. Podcast logo like right here. What podcast logo? Well, I think I would say Dubai Friday, but maybe it's a little too graphical. But I think the relay FM logo would be would look pretty sick on Mike's fade there. Right. I think it would. That'd be awesome. I could do it. I have clippers back there. We can work it out. You do not have the ability with your clippers to shave a logo into. You don't know my skills. That is impossible for you to do. Yeah, that's not Mike. That sounds like there's only one way to experimentally verify. That's very true. I guess hair grows back. Yeah, it'll be fine. Sure. Well, Max, well done, sir. Thank you. So I'll have to I have to I know that I wish there were a phone. I've been hanging out in the chat, but I feel like you guys should have some sort of bot or something that will occasionally post the link to donate. I don't know why no one thought of that. St. Jude dog slash relay. There is a ball that will do it. I will trigger the ball right now. Yeah, I've been I've been in there and it would be awesome if there was some way to get that link in the chat. I just haven't seen it. Hey, we've got to get money. Give us the money. No, no, no, I know. You're not you're not glittering yourself for your for your health. That's true. Actually, no, I'm not going in my mouth. Yeah, you're getting in the mouth. Uh huh. Yeah, I know you told me to not to keep it safe for work on the stream. But do you think we're going to see this better again? Probably. Oh, and that's as much as we'll go. You've got my number, man. Mm hmm. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Max, thank you. Yeah, of course. Would you do you I don't know what the what the time limit on this thing is. Would you guys like to see a magic trick? I have some I have some rubber bands with me if you guys want to see something. Yeah, go on. Show us a magic trick. We have a magic trick. Yeah, we have. OK, cool. So this is the magic trick that I saw a couple of years ago. My friend Jordan showed me this at Gen Con and we were out at a bar and he he was at this board gaming convention. Gen Con working with the game Exploding Kittens. And we were out at the bar and he took out these little rubber bands and he put them on the table and he showed me this trick that I'm about to do. And I liked it so much. It like it like shattered my mind. And now here I am. And two years later. And you guys know how like deep down the rabbit hole I've gone. But I'm like, you know, sitting at home, like in the mirror, practicing magic tricks every night for multiple hours a night. So this is the only reason I bring this up is if I show this to you, that might happen to you. So is everyone cool with that? Yeah, we're fine. We'll accept the risk. We'll accept it on behalf of everybody watching on Twitch, too. That's our cross to bear. OK, turn off now from Twitch and cease donating to St. Jude's Children's Hospital. All right. So here we go. So I have to I have the two rubber bands and this is the trick. So you take the first one and this one goes back behind here. Right. And now you can see it's back here. Right. So if I come back here, it's I can't get out this way because it's on my thumb. And you can see it's linked on this way. And you can see I can't go that way because it's linked on my finger. Right. Oh, boy. I'm more nervous now. Holy moly. Wow. Well done, sir. Whoa. That's the trick. That's how the magic happens. That is my that is mind shattering. I can show you I'll show you on a better angle here. You might be able to see how it works. I don't know if you guys can. I'll try and show you a good angle. But so look, so basically you take the two bands, right. And you can show look, they're linked. They're linked. They're linked. You show they're on here. They're linked. And then so what I'm going to do is I'm going to take this this top band. Sorry, I don't know how to get this in the stream here. There we go. I'm going to take this top band and I'm going to start to make it real small. So it's going to go. There we go. Now you can see it. Look, so you can see it's on here. It's like so I'm going to take this band here and I'm going to make it real small like that. And almost like it looks like it's going into the first band. And now look. Go. Through the first band. Oh, through the second band. Wow. Oh, man. Thank you very much, Max. Thank you, Max. That was amazing. Thank you guys for doing this. What a wonderful thing that you guys are doing. And I'm so happy to see all the love that's that's coming your way into St. Jude's and I'm glad I got to help a little bit. And I hope you guys make this a regular a regular thing. It's a really cool thing that you guys are doing. Yeah, we want to. Thank you so much. Thank you, buddy. Max Tamkin. Goodbye, Max. Wow. That was pretty great. Right. I think it'd be shown a magic trick to magic tricks. That's where we are. So that's the magic trick. And then the fake magic trick where they pretend like they're showing you how they do it. But it's a bigger trick. Magicians. It's pretty wild. Should we do some more names? What are we doing now? What do we got now? I think we read some names for a minute. They're going to be joined by another special guest. Wonderful. We're going to do a couple of names. So thanks to Thomas from Troy, Michigan. Michigan. And I'm away from the microphone. Noah from Toluca Lake, California. That sounds like a fun place to be. There's water there. Probably. Steven from Richard. Richard Richardson. And New D... North Dakota. North Dakota. I just said a bunch of sounds. New Delaware. North Denver. North Denver. F. Anthony from Indianapolis. All right. This came up before. Yeah. We got an update. $217,802. Really getting close. Incredibly close now to $220,000. To handle more mustache time. Yeah. I'm starting to lose my language. Ryan from Akron, Ohio. That's where I am. No, you're in Memphis. Oh, boy. Steve from Banner Elk in North Carolina. North Carolina. All right. And Craig from Chelmsford, Massachusetts. All right. Stjude.org. Relay. And you can donate there. Any donation is more than accepted. But if you donate over $50, you can get your name on one of these things. That's right. Please help us get to where we want to be, which is... 220. And then 250. But let's get to 220 and we'll start doing more. More pain happens to us at 220. Yeah. And we still have some great things to go. We still have some guests left. We're going to go to a video now. And we'll be right back. This is Sarah Ryan. At 12 years old, she loves sports and loves spending time with her mother, Jackie. This year, Sarah was diagnosed with neurofibromatosis type 1, a genetic condition that affects one out of every 3,000 children born in the United States. These patients, like Sarah, have a mutation or change in one of their genes that causes their cells to grow and divide abnormally. For Sarah, this meant the growth of a tumor in her hand. With the help of brave kids like Sarah, scientists at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital are using information about patients' genes to find better treatments and save the lives of more children with cancer. Genomes for Kids, or G4K, is a new clinical research study at St. Jude that combines the genetic information of many patients to give researchers a better understanding of what causes childhood cancers. In the future, this information may give us clues about how tumors develop and what a patient's future cancer risks may be. It may even lead to more effective, personalized treatment options. But we believe in working with the entire family because when you think about genetics and genetic conditions, they not only affect the child with cancer, but they have the potential to affect siblings and parents and other relatives. Most new tumor patients at St. Jude are given the opportunity to be a part of the study. Should they elect to take part, the G4K study team will explain the risks and benefits and guide the family through the process. So, Jackie, genetic counseling is a process where we can hopefully gain insight into why your daughter developed a tumor. And it's something that involves lots of pieces of information. We look at the family history. We look at Sarah's medical history. We try to put all those clues together. Once a family has given their informed consent to take part in the study, the staff will gather a detailed family history and an update of the patient's medical history. In some cases, a member of the G4K team may meet with the family to dig deeper and fill in any important gaps. How many brothers, how many sisters do you have? I have one brother. A family history can offer insight into some of the factors that lead to cancer forming in the body, but it's only one piece of a larger puzzle. Another piece lies in the patient's genetic material. DNA samples are obtained from both a patient's healthy cells, like in the blood, and from the tumor or cancer cells. These can be taken during a routine clinic visit, in surgery, or from cold storage. Every person's DNA contains a vast amount of information. Dozens of talented scientists across St. Jude work to ensure the data is collected in a precise and accurate way. So if we consider life is like a book, then DNA is the code that we use to write that book. When you compare any two individuals, their DNA is about 99.9% identical. However, when you look at the tumor DNA and normal DNA from the same individual, we're looking for one out of one million to one out of ten million differences. The technology used to read the DNA is called next-generation sequencing. Once loaded into the St. Jude supercomputers, it takes six days to compute more than three billion base pairs per sample. Answers to the causes, treatment, and maybe even the prevention of cancerous tumors may lie within this massive amount of information, information that we are only beginning to understand. When a patient chooses to anonymously add their data to a global data set, they can help researchers all over the world discover new cures for cancer and help future children who may be stricken with catastrophic diseases. Analysts at St. Jude compare each patient's cancer genome with their healthy genome and thousands of others to find things that might be the same or different and to find possible clues for what causes the disease. Armed with this information, a committee of doctors, geneticists, and data analysts meet to discuss the findings and how the information may impact the patient's diagnosis and possible response to current treatment. Hopefully, this information will help guide the treatments of future children with cancer. All right, hello and welcome back. We are in our final hour of the podcast-a-thon. It's gone by much faster than I anticipated. But we have a lot more stuff to do. Did I say no? I said yeah, but... Yeah, but no? Okay, so in the amount of time, yes, it feels like it didn't start that long ago. My body does not agree with this. Yeah. I'm feeling it right now. We are currently at $218,000 at stjude.org slash relay. Go over there and donate to help the kids at St. Jude. Like David in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. That's right. Or Will in Longmont, Colorado or something. I don't know. Jacob in Springfield, Virginia, and Neil in Cortland, Ohio. That's good. That's good. A bunch of good people. We have some special guests to round out our last hour, though. We do. We're very excited about. If we're ready to be joined by our first guest, he will join us. Control room, confirm. Do we have our guest? All right, so we will be joined by one Mr. John Syracusa. John Craig Syracusa. John Craig Syracusa. Hey, John. Hello. There he is. Hey. Now I can update my mental model of the room that you're recording. It hasn't really changed. What was the previous model? I didn't have one. Oh, there was no one? I've never seen it. It's great. Now I have it. Well, this is it. It's actually not that different to what I was imagining, honestly. Hi, John. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, no problem. I have to tell you, I don't have any magic tricks prepared. Oh, no. If you had asked me beforehand, like you said, you're going to come on, but make sure you have a magic trick. Like maybe I would have something, but I just don't. Did you hear when we were talking to Federico earlier? I did. Okay. So can you say 250,000 in Italian? So your mental model of my room is one thing. What is your mental model of me where you think I have ever known any Italian? Zero. I assumed you knew none, but I just wanted to see if you were going to surprise me. I took French in school. Can you do it in French? Oh, did we lose, John? Oh, no. We lost him. Oh, no. His Mac Pro finally died. Can you imagine? We're at $219,000 now, though, so that's good. Ironically, what John will need for a Mac Pro. Yeah, that's true. They're trying to get John back now. They're trying to get John back. So I will thank Wesley in Houston, Texas. I feel like we need another like big, maybe you should get back in it if we don't get John back. I could get in it and John's here. That's true. You should do the rest of the interview with John from the pit. Okay. I fell in the pit. Wow. We don't have the rights to that. Okay. Well, I'm going to go get him. I'm going to help you. I think I'm good. There's just lots of wires. Am I caught up in them in any way? No. You're good. All right. This is very exciting audio when neither of us are talking, just moving around. I'm talking, but it's the things that people can't really visualize. All right. Oh, it's a lot more full than earlier. It's really full. I'm going to come over and dump some on you. Okay. We are getting closer and closer to 220. $219,617. 817. It went up again. Come on. Someone's going to push us over to 220 inch. Let's do it. And then I'm going to get glittered immediately, I guess. Let's do it. Googley. Googley eyed. That's going to be horrific. How are you doing? Good. Pretty good? Yep. Are you ready? Yep. They've gone everywhere. They're really all over the place now. Yeah, just everywhere now. Oh, John's back. John. I'm in the pit now, John. You see what I had to do? This is what I had to do. That's good. You should be doused with balls, but that's a first. All these years of podcasting, I thought maybe it's because I never do video, did the thing freeze up because I lost audio video. I turned around and looked at my router and my router says no internet connection tomorrow. Oh, no. I think there is a curse on the ATP co-hosts right now. Yeah, you all have a rough week. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, it's back. I don't know what happened, but here I am. I'm back. That's good. We're glad that you're back. I'm glad someone got doused with balls while I was gone. Yeah, I can just keep doing it, right? Just keep doing it. You're getting burned from the fire hose. That's right. There's a whole other big box of them over there. Can they come back out again? No, that's a one-way street from me to you. So, John, we were talking to Jason earlier about the idea of an October Apple event. And as someone who has a vested interest in a Cernic computer that could probably come out at that time, do you expect we'll see Apple back on stage in October? And if you do, what do you think we may see? I think we will see them in October. I mean, if the 16-inch MacBook Pro is going to be out this year, we'll see it in October. I'm less confident now about iPads in October just because of the other iPad thing, but I could be convinced. But yeah, I think there will be an October event. As for the Mac Pro at the October event, I can see the October event going by and them just doing 16-inch MacBook Pro and new iPad Pros, and that's it. And I'm not saying anything about the Mac Pro because we're just used to them not saying anything about the Mac Pro. I mean, there's a computer coming out. What do you mean by coming out? They already announced it. We saw it. It's just a matter of when we can send people money and then when we get them after that. Fall is a long time. Fall ends, what, December 20th? Yeah. Is that the official ending of fall? It's pretty late. It's later in the year than you would think. Yeah, because that feels very winter. This is not a weather podcast, though. If I'm seeing and hearing Christmas music, it's winter. It's not fall anymore. Right? Sure. I will not accept the calendar. Wow. I refuse the calendar. You already start your calendar days on Monday, so you're already in defiance of convention. Oh, yeah. That doesn't make any sense. Of stupid convention. That doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying it's not a stupid convention. I'm just saying, the calendar is your enemy. Convention where I'm from is Monday. Well, we're here. We've had calendars for longer. We haven't had state name abbreviations for longer, I guess. No, that's true. That's true. Can you read this one? New Delaware is going to be awesome. Oh, I know. MA. Don't forget about North Dakota or whatever it is I came up with earlier. North Denver, that was it. North Dakota is a real one. Somerville, that ridiculous one called North Dakota. Yeah. That's a Somerville, Massachusetts. All right. See if you know the green one. Oh, I dropped it. It's gone forever. Forget about it. Did you know that you picked my ball? Yes. The second ball you picked out. Yeah. I was very excited about that. There have been a couple. I think I know who that is, but there are hundreds and hundreds of them in here. Indiana. Yeah. I was going to say Indianapolis. Just let him complete it. I want to hear when he comes up. Indonesia? India. Great. India. It's so fantastic. We have Emeryville, CA. It's California. I know that. That's right. So, John, do you have any new hardware today? Are you still putting all the money in the Mac Pro Fund? Well, my wife has new hardware today, but I do not. I didn't buy anything. Yes. I'm going to save all my pennies for the big Mac, but she got a new phone and a case in there sitting upstairs. What case did Tina get? She got ... What is it? It's a silicone case and it's like salmon? I don't know. I didn't look at the colors. It's weird. So she didn't go for the clear one then? I know that you guys are talking about it. She's not interested in clear? No. She has many different cases for her existing iPhone X and I imagine the same will be true of her 11 Pro. Alexa, change it up. Yeah. Change it up from day to day. Yeah. They almost look good. It's kind of a shame that the colors are more dim. For the X, there was really deep purple and a really saturated red. There's lots of cool colors. I would love to know who does it or why they make the decisions that they make. It has to be specific because it seems like they follow these patterns. They'll be super bright and vibrant and then maybe they'll be a little bit calmer. They seem to go in these weird trends and I just think it's interesting. Fashion. I'm sure they have a team that chooses the colors and there's a theme to the colors and they're basically trying like everyone else who does anything related to fashion, both trying to track fashion trends and what's in now, but also trying to set them a little bit. Right. It's that balance and it seems alien to me because I'm not following any kind of fashion trends whatsoever. But I see the cohesion of each theme and it's just, you know, does this year's fashion theme appeal to me? Because very often, you know, for any fashion thing, you're like, well, it's the fashion, but I hate that style of haircut or I hate that, you know, colored thing or I hate those kinds of socks or whatever, whatever thing may be in may not appeal. But Apple's done that a long time, right? You think about the iPod Nano line, they'd be very vibrant and then they will go softer like they're doing this year on the phone. Like clearly there's some sort of cycle to this while we may not be in touch with it. I think there are parts of the buying community who definitely are. Yeah, the one thing, the one kind of saving grace, speaking of the iPod Nano times was like whatever the color theme was for the year, the product red was always like a saturated red. And so like if you like that color, you'd be like, well, I don't like this year's crop of color, so I'll just get the product red because if you like saturated red, there's probably one in that color. Because I assume that that product red color is dictated to them. Yeah, well, almost dictated because I think the Nano was like kind of a more deeper metallic than the. Yeah, it was a little off from the phones. It's certainly not going to be salmon. I can tell you that. Yeah, the the red is really, I mean, if you look at it, it's sort of so red it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's so. Like a Ferrari. Yes, yes. So saturated. It looks kind of set apart from the others. Would you buy a Ferrari red phone, John? I think I would actually. Yeah, I mean, I always have cases online so you can't see it, but I like Ferrari red. I would totally buy. I mean, they never make the fancy pro, you know, the top end models in that color. So I haven't had a chance to do that, but I would. Do you think that because we're talking about this earlier, like that if they never done a product red in the when they've since they've been having this split in price, they didn't do the 10 or the 10S in red, right? No, the 10R, the 8. And the 7 was mid cycle. Remember, it was like January or something. They've done it twice mid cycle. Yeah. But I think this time they launched the 11 with the red. And if they don't do a pro, then they won't be one. They should do it. I think the pro could take red. I think the red's really nice. It'll be midnight red. It'll be like just as black. But with a slight, if you look at it in the right light, you can see a little red. Yeah, I'll come around on that green. So no phone, no watch, Mac Pro coming. You don't like notebooks. So you're not particularly interested in the MacBook Pro, I guess, for your size. I'm interested in seeing Apple sort of right the ship and get their laptop line back on track. But it's mostly an academic interest. I'm not going to buy one. Because it's unlikely work would give you one, right? No, they're getting stingy with the Macs. And the space bar on my 2017 MacBook Pro at work is wonky now. So it's not a key that you use a lot. So it's not a big deal. I think mine's full of glitter now. So I'll put that away for me. This laptop is done. There's like glitter around the edges of the keys. And it's just it's finished. I don't think I don't know if you two really thought the glitter thing through. It seems like you didn't. Well, too late now. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. You are going to be living with glitter for the next three years. Yeah, it was it was thought through. And I'll take a sacrifice. You know, we're trying to raise $250,000. Yeah, you know, right. A little glitter. You got a facial area going on, you know, yeah, happening over here. Yeah. I've only had a goatee in some time. I certainly haven't. I used to have a I used to wear a goatee, though. Really? Yeah, for a while. Mary reminded me when I was shaving down. She's like, this is like how it used to be years ago. Like, I don't want to think about that. The mustache, though, will be new territory. Speaking of which, speaking of which, we get an update real quick. Yes, I have an update for you. We have broken the $220,000 barrier. Yes. Let's get those googly eyes. We're going to get googly eyed. John has to grow a mustache, I think is what we said. Oh, there we go. We're at $220,522. Awesome. Super awesome. So we are going to start applying things. The googly eyes are coming at me. Oh, she's like coming out right now. That's very upsetting. Let's do it. I'm standing in the ball pit. Let's do it in the ball pit. There's going to be googly eyes and ball pit stuff all at once. Is this what you signed up for, John? Yeah, I signed up for the ball pit. I'm going to be the googly eyes. I'm going to be the googly eyes. Is this what you signed up for, John? Is this what you expected you were going to be getting? Pretty much, yeah. I mean, I thought you'd be a little bit more loopy by now, but you're taking all these breaks, you know, so. I've had one 37 minute break. What you don't see when the videos are playing, we're running around getting ready for the next segment. Yeah. Wow, this looks really good. So if you turn your head fast enough, you'll hear them jostle, which will be good. Apparently they're not sticking. What about hot glue? You want to try hot glue? No, I've got enough glue on my face as it is. Oh, OK. This is a. Are we going to have a trypophobia situation here like the Mac Pro? Oh yeah. Yeah. There's another one like fear of eyes, a more specific one. Yeah. Those people are in trouble. There we go. Wow. I don't think I want to look at you after this. So now they're going just on the face. Yeah. I'm turning into Riven. Wow. Look at that. Are we putting more? No, she's getting out the stick of glue. I don't think that's that glue in. Stick of glue. John, are you still enjoying exploring Apple Arcade? Have you if by exploring Apple Arcade, you mean playing Siren our Wild Hearts over and over again? Haven't moved over yet. It's so good. I bought I bought it on Switch. And so now I'm on my TV because I think the Apple TV version is still not out yet. So I brought it on Switch. I could play it on my TV. I downloaded many games from Apple Arcade. Haven't really launched many besides that one. Yeah, I have downloaded this one as a treat for when this is done. So I'm going to explore that later this weekend. This is really wow. This is stuff happening. This is really, really upsetting. Man. Thank you, everyone who has helped us hit 220,000. We're already past it at 221,492. And we have a goal after this. So I'm a little behind now. I have to save down to a handlebar like motorcycle guy mustache. And then at 225, the glitter goatee will come in for Mike and I will just have a mustache. So we have some more work to go. I'm a little behind now. Yeah. Wow. That is really, really good. If you're watching, please send us gifts of this because I need this forever. You do look like the Mac Pro. It was perfect that John was on at this time. This is really a horror show now. Extract the background. So we get like a chroma key on that background so we can insert you into other things. Put me into different horror movies. Yeah. Wow. Well, John, thank you for joining us and hanging out. Yeah. I'm sorry that you had to witness that up close. But we appreciate you all and you guys at ATP helping us every year with this. Thank you so much for supporting the campaign that we're doing. It really means a lot to us. Thank you, John. You're welcome. I just heard one falling into the ball pit. It's gone forever. It's gone. It's a ball and eye pit now. Yeah. All right. So to recap the goals at 225,000, I will be at just a mustache. I have to go here in a second and trim this down one step. And Mike's goatee area will become glittered. We were waiting on that because he wanted to eat. And now he's eaten and we can do it safely. So if you want Mike to finish this journey. Breathing glitter. Breathing in glitter safely. That's not safe. There's no safety. That's fine. We will be at 225,000. That is the goal. The next goal. So I'm going to go trim this. Yep. We get to a video? I think we may go to a video and then we will be joined by another special guest. Yeah, for our final segment. That's right. They're falling off. This is brilliant. All right. We're going to thank you to everybody who's donated so far. Stjude.org slash relay. Let's get to 225 and finish off this incredible evening that we've had so far. We're going to go to a video right now. We'll be right back. To be a champion, it takes a strong mindset and you have to be very willing to do it. You have to commit to it and you have to be just like, I'm going to do this no matter what. All right, hands up. There you go. That was better. When I'm on the floor performing, I feel like it's something that I was always meant to do. I'm not too worried about what anybody else has to say. It's just a huge part in my life that I wouldn't be able to let go. But I had cancer. Honestly, it was really scary. I was super nervous. I didn't know what was going to come of it. It was really harsh. During treatment, I wasn't able to do anything because I didn't really have the strength. You did good. You're all done. Okay. But I do have the mindset that I can do it no matter what. When I was at St. Jude, we're like, okay, we're going to get you back on the right track. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. And yeah, it was definitely a challenge. I was like, I don't know how you're going to do it, but you're probably going to. And I did. I'm done with treatment. I did go back to gym. I made the regional team, and if you win, you're the regional champ. Right now, I feel like I could do anything. I could go to college, be a nurse, be a doctor, be a champion, anything. It's just crazy thinking about where I was to where I am now. St. Jude helped me beat cancer. I think it's going to help me get through life in general, and I'm just going to remember it forever. There it is. It's Gerald, the first on ball to the 9.5, 7.5. Jordan, congratulations. You did so good. Congratulations, boo. Hello. We are at $222,098 right now. It just keeps falling off. So we've only got a little bit more to go until we do more things, more glitter. Stephen will be completely shaved. I want to thank more people who have donated. I'm going to add a googly eye to the next ball, which is to Jason from Ames in IA. I don't know what that is. Iowa. There we go. Oh, the googly eye stayed stuck to me. And thank you to Nathaniel from Greenville in South Carolina. This has been an incredible evening. I can't believe that we're nearly at the end. To have raised the amount of money that we have raised tonight has far exceeded our expectations. So thank you so much, and there's been so many of you tuned in for the whole evening, which has been absolutely incredible. We have a lot of more. I can see myself in the screen. What is happening? Is this what you wanted? Did you want this? Oh boy. It's horrible. It's really, it's very upsetting. I apologize. But you all did this to me. So thank you so much for donating. Stephen is currently removing the bottom of his goatee beard, which I'm very excited about to see him with the handlebar mustache. Thank you to Daniel in Brooklyn, New York for your donation. To Jonathan in Poughkeepsie, New York for your donation. And to Emery in Somerville, Massachusetts for yours as well. This is a very special evening. I'm going to add a googly eye to the next ball, which is to Jason from Ames in IA. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated. I want to thank more people who have donated.